Morde needs ad ratios

Xavanic·Jun 16, 2019·3 votes·1,244 views

So this is coming from the fact, mordes ult can steal AD, but not AP?!? like, his entire kit is AP but he cant steal any of it, but AD literally only scales on his AA's....even if it's just his Q, give him SOME AD or let him convert the stolen AD into AP Before you say oh they need to nerf him first, sit down and take a look at his kit, compared to most juggernauts, morde is much weaker then any of the other ones we currently have, additionally ap bruiser itemization for manaless ap is actually garbage rn, bruiser items such as RoA or iceborn are extremely bad investments due to how many wasted stats you receive

16 Comments

KelgJun 16, 20194 votes

I agree, I want to be able to build gunblade again since Morde's sustain is crap.

MalignMetalJun 16, 20192 votes

Holy shit YES

Luther King Jr VJun 16, 20191 votes

after they nerf his ap ones sure

XavanicJun 16, 20192 votes

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after they nerf his ap ones sure

his ap ones aren't even that high.....60% on both is meager at best, compare it to some of the ad juggernaut ratios and the fact morde only hits about 200 ap in a typical match (unless he's fed) so...120 dmg from his ap, to put this in perspective darius q has a 140% AD ratio at max rank, and to top it off, he only has 2 dmg abilites while every other juggernaut has 3 (also just noticed darius W has a 170% AD ratio....) his Q climbs to 84% if its a single target btw...Not 100% It would be more effective to instead nerf his base dmg because he has a random white ratio that im not entirely sure what it scales off, that could prob be removed for an ad ratio as it won't just make morde into an ad only champ

On My Kill ListJun 16, 20191 votes

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his ap ones aren't even that high.....60% on both is meager at best, compare it to some of the ad juggernaut ratios and the fact morde only hits about 200 ap in a typical match (unless he's fed) so...120 dmg from his ap, to put this in perspective darius q has a 140% AD ratio at max rank, and to top it off, he only has 2 dmg abilites while every other juggernaut has 3 (also just noticed darius W has a 170% AD ratio....) his Q climbs to 84% if its a single target btw...Not 100% It would be more effective to instead nerf his base dmg because he has a random white ratio that im not entirely sure what it scales off, that could prob be removed for an ad ratio as it won't just make morde into an ad only champ

morde literally does 40% of his ap per auto thats like 3 nashors worth of dmg he gets for free and he can do it every second. saying mordes damage isn't high is a bold faced lie. morde after just a few autos has already done ap level damage equivilant to some mages full kits. and he can keep doing this over and over in addition to main damage spells and passive. i don't know what world you live in but morde has probably the single strongest sustained magic damage of any ap/magic damage dealing champ in the entire game.(maybe only cassiopia can out dps him after he's procced his passive)

XavanicJun 16, 20191 votes

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morde literally does 40% of his ap per auto thats like 3 nashors worth of dmg he gets for free and he can do it every second. saying mordes damage isn't high is a bold faced lie. morde after just a few autos has already done ap level damage equivilant to some mages full kits. and he can keep doing this over and over in addition to main damage spells and passive. i don't know what world you live in but morde has probably the single strongest sustained magic damage of any ap/magic damage dealing champ in the entire game.(maybe only cassiopia can out dps him after he's procced his passive)

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Only on the boards will people ask for a straight ratio buff to a champion who's already 52% winrate AFTER nerfs, just because he's morde.

First of all, he's honestly the weakest juggernaut in the game....his winrate has dropped nearly 3% in just 3 days, and i doubt its gonna stop dropping, morde BARELY aa's, and even then, 40% ap out of 200....thats 80 extra dmg....thats weak as shit, when darius literally does 200+ on a single AA, mordes passive doesn't even do as much dmg as it seems to say, im not asking for a 200% AD ratio on Q, just enough that it can justify going more then fucking rylais first item every game, morde is gonna drop to around a 48% win rate by next week guaranteed (hell his win rate has dropped by .2% in the past hour) it's just the fact people are still stupid enough to feed him early game, he's not in a good spot, he's just really snowbally and once the shock value wears off....well he won't even have that

KelgJun 16, 20191 votes

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after they nerf his ap ones sure

Well, they can give him bonus AD ratio, so he will only be stronger if he builds AD. This will just let him build things like titanic, steraks, and gunblade since there are not many good AP bruiser choices.

BastileanJun 16, 20191 votes

Ok, but Poppy gets AP ratios first :3

XavanicJun 16, 20192 votes

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Ok, but Poppy gets AP ratios first :3

she isn't limited to 4 item options........................

BastileanJun 17, 20191 votes

Neither is morde.,,

XavanicJun 17, 20191 votes

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Neither is morde.,,

he's actually very limited, he cant get away with any sheen items due his options being so cost inefficient even though it feels like thats what they wanted with him, he can't build any of the good bruiser items since their all AD, he's forced into item 3151 item 3116 item 3152 item 3102 item 3157 if he wants to be useful, meanwhile poppy has item 3078 item 3071 item 3053 item 3812 item 3748 item 3022 item 3161 just for offensive options...hell morde can't even effectively use item 3001 or item 3027 2 of the best ap brusier items simply because he doesn't have mana, ap itemization is fine, but not for manaless champs, morde feels very awkward to build rn and completely reliant on snowballing

On My Kill ListJun 16, 20191 votes

i don't get it. morde probably has the single strongest passive in the entire game. getting 40% of your ap per aa is incredibly strong.(and this is ignoring the incredible movement speed boost and sunfire cape auraX20 plus percent maximum health damage for ages) after just a few aa's morde already has already outdone an entire mages kit worth of damage in ap ratios. yet you still complain? you could throw morde passive on basically any ap champ and they'd become 1000x stronger. sure you'd say some ranged ap champions couldn't abuse it as much but you know what. they'd probably go tanky and still do as much if not more damage since now THEY can literally build almost full tank and have it work! heck could you imagine if ekko had mordes passive? or fizz had mordes passive?

Nanuk PihoqahiakJun 16, 20191 votes

I mean stealing is stealing. His autos will hit harder, and his enemy will be doing a lot less damage / taking more damage due to their stats being stolen. Not every stat has to necessarily benefit him.

XavanicJun 16, 20191 votes

[{quoted}](name=Nanuk Pihoqahiak,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VV4No61A,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-06-16T06:28:21.430+0000)

I mean stealing is stealing. His autos will hit harder, and his enemy will be doing a lot less damage / taking more damage due to their stats being stolen. Not every stat has to necessarily benefit him.

It's one of the if not the weakest ultimate in the game rn, with how mobility creep has destroyed this game, ulting like 80% of the champs in the game get you nothing since they can just use their dozens of dashes to avoid you until the timer wears off, and the reward for winning (which you cant even do half the time since a lot of champs beat morde 1v1) is mediocre at best, 10% of core stats....a whole 15 armor, 4 mr, 150 health, and 11 attack damage.....(this is mid-late game values btw)