For every ADC that gets stomped in lane and then doesn't group

OyddAWqJ5r·Dec 1, 2016·8 votes·733 views

Quit giving me the BS excuse "i need to farm, I'm useless vs the enemy ADC". You aren't fighting the enemy ADC after lane. You're gonna be fighting the enemy jungler or top laner cuz that's 90% of what you'll be seeing in teamfights.

But nope every time bot lane loses lane the kiddies always think farming will make it all better as their team is losing objectives or kills or both in 3/4v5 standoffs depending on whether or not your support is smart enough to leave their useless potato of an ADC.

If this is your strategy at least try not to feed 5+ kills before sending your fed Draven to steamroll us while you sit bot farming for a late game that will never come.

9 Comments

DarkRitualDec 1, 20166 votes

If I need to hit item threshds to be useful, I'm going to get them. Limping in teamfights isn't helping me get the items and exp I need to not be behind. I'm gonna ward up and freeze this lane near turret, just try not to do dumb engages for the next few minutes. Losing an objective or two sucks, but forcing a carry to remain gimped is even worse.

P.S. I'm a support main, and understand this.

DeathBurstDec 1, 20161 votes

Yep, agreed. I'm a Top main, Sup secondary, and I understand this.

OyddAWqJ5rDec 2, 20164 votes

Well getting objectives and potentially kills is certainly helping them get to their next big item and level thresholds far faster than sitting on the side is helping you.

But by all means, continue to gimp your allies.

Applying pressure on the map is THE #1 priority at a certain stage in the game. If your team isn't built to accommodate for a missing player to play defense while they play farm simulator on the side then you are gonna just help lose that pressure game extremely hard--making it even harder for your team to come back from.

What's worse is that if you fed the enemy ADC not only can we barely win even fights but now we have to defend vs a ranged opponent that can deal consistently huge DPS and take our towers down from a range whilst we can do nothing about it if we aren't built to counter it.

All this because you want to farm cuz you feel weak. This is especially painful when your mid and top lanes were net winning and then you want to go and toss any hope of a lead they had by throwing a fed enemy ADC at them with no compensation on your end--tossing away any hope of a comeback you possibly had.

But like I said, by all means, continue to gimp your allies.

DarkRitualDec 2, 20161 votes

You're right abiut one thing. It's completely dependant on teamcomps. Therefore, we are both correct.

Sometimes it's better to farm so you can hit item spikes. Trading an objective is worth 6 waves of freefarm with a proper kane freeze, as long as your team isn't just getting pummeled. Sometimes you just need to group and keep the fights even, and accept that you need to wait to hit your spikes.

ADC5LUTDec 1, 20162 votes

If the adc doesn't have damage then they're not contributing to the fight anyway

OyddAWqJ5rDec 2, 20162 votes

The ADC never just doesn't have damage. Some items provide damage spikes but at no point is the ADC a worthless potato like they believe and try to be. They still have the inherent advantage of ranged dps which sometimes is all we need to defeat something that's keeping us from winning fights or defending turrets without them.

3k damage contribution vs 2k damage contribution is a big difference but it still helps and makes a huge difference in the outcome. Plus it's still better than 3k vs 0.

And if you are playing a late game scaler then you should be doing all you can do prevent the game from ending any earlier than it needs to so you can actually hit that late game. Farm when your base isn't being absolutely annihilated.

SGT Dingle BerryDec 1, 20162 votes

You're the idiot that constantly runs from the fountain into battle not caring or paying attention to how many teammates are with you and then after your inevitable death you start pinging the map at all the smart people who are trying to get as much farm as possible before the enemy starts pushing again.

OyddAWqJ5rDec 2, 20163 votes

I'm actually the one telling people not to do that with danger pings and whatnot as I continue to cower behind a turret that's being seiged waiting for our bot lane to show up and help or dropping wards in random key spots to avoid any big picks that'll let them get even more objectives.

Because what else can I do as a squishy melee champ designed to assassinate a carry when their tanks don't have to fend off an enemy marksman and can instead fully focus on defending their strongest player? I just sit there and wait, trying to waveclear where i can to alleviate pressure.

It's like I'm playing Doom Bots and my ADC's total time needed to process intellectual thought is the survival timer.