So can we revert fizz rework already?

RexSaur··9 votes·1,566 views

He literlaly has no more strenghts outside of his huge/bugged hitbox ult now.

Making a champ all around something that looks like a bug is not a good thing, give me back the old fizz please, no fizz players actually like the gutting that the fish recieved.

If not, atleast make it so fizz is playable after the 25 min mark, his W wait time should be scaled down to 1s late game, 2s is too much late game for a melee squishy assassin to wait to do damage to someone, at that point adcs and mages can actually kill him faster in melee range than he can kill them.

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Sagan Forever3 votes

They are trying to bring back tank fizz...( or that is how it feels to me).

A Cute Butterfly2 votes

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They are trying to bring back tank fizz...( or that is how it feels to me).

Meh. Tank Fizz used to work because his W used to do percent hp damage. Now that is has flat damage Tank Fizz doesn't looks very appealing.

While I am ok with his new Shark, I prefer his old W.

JustMonika133 votes

Looks like you're ignoring his tank build.

Penns2 votes

Pretty sure the ult hitbox isnt bugged, the attachment range was just buffed to make it at least a bit more reliable. Also I dont think the W delay is really the problem late game, its just that he does no damage against all these tanks with cotc or supports with item 3190 item 3107 item 3109 ... and their build in shields/heals or generally anyone that builds item 3156 or item 3157 or other counter items. He is just so binary now, oneshot with ult or if your damage isnt enough/you miss it, do nothing.

The Deckowner2 votes

Fizz's ult is extremely buggy interms of real hitbox vs visual effect. Basically the hitbox of his ult gets larger the further he throw it, but the visual effect stay the same or at least look exactly the same, making it seem ridiculous.

Penns1 votes

The fish he throws out does get biggerr the further he throws it. Its just not really supposed to be a regular "skillshot", so the attachment radius of the max size fish is really big.

The Deckowner1 votes

How is Fizz ult not supposed to be a skill shot?

Penns1 votes

Well it kind of is one but it stays on the ground and attaches to people near it, thats not what skillshots do. And like I said, the radius was buffed on pbe to make it more reliable.

Silverjust1 votes

it is suposed to work like that, but it looks verry bugged sometimes, maybe the attachment needs an animation?

RemIsAmazing1 votes

you realize fizz does a shit ton more damage now than he used to...? if you're dying to someone that's your problem not riots. learn to play the champ better.

RexSaur6 votes

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you realize fizz does a shit ton more damage now than he used to...? if you're dying to someone that's your problem not riots. learn to play the champ better.

He does not, thats false.

Old fizz has more dps with his old W (6s AA enhancer vs single use AA enhancer), and more burst with the ult giving him extra 20% damage ON HIS WHOLE KIT.

Seenan2 votes

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He does not, thats false.

Old fizz has more dps with his old W (6s AA enhancer vs single use AA enhancer), and more burst with the ult giving him extra 20% damage ON HIS WHOLE KIT.

Uh nah, he still can chunk super hard. Throw a long range ult out, and W them as they dread the shark and they should be dead just off that if they're a squishy/have no real MR/shields. Not all of his damage is reserved in his R anymore. He's not even close to reliant on ult as he was pre-rework because they got rid of the 20% amp and it now has a minimum damage range for upclose ults.

Could make E apply W as well, but they'd just break his trading. W's missing hp% damage was unhealthy at all points. Tank and/or AD Fizz was a thing because of it.

Infact, you haven't even played in a month unless you're using him on a smurf. And have a 25% wr with old Fizz anyway.

THE RlVER KlNG3 votes

Doesn't change the fact that his old W was poorly designed and something about it needed to go.

xXxKojixXx1 votes

that ult bug is pretty insane though.. i dont think its possible to miss his ult right now..lol

RespectPlus1 votes

His W damage should be fully applied when he ults someone

The Deckowner1 votes

The W and R change makes no sense, to me it seems like they are trying to bring back tank fizz top with the delay W and Ult initiation, honestly don't know why.

bad arcade kitty1 votes

i can't tolerate his new undodgeable ult

And A Real Hiero1 votes

Them tears they taste of fishy cancer.

RemIsAmazing1 votes

his e also does like twice the damage it used to. if you get fished then e'd you're dead if you're squishy

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