He literally gets a MASSIVE ms boost every critical strike, and he gets a free crit every fourth shot. Lets not pretend hes even on the same level as varus or kog'maw. He has more range than both AND more mobility, AND CC? Hmmm, I really wonder why his winrate is so god damn high.
Ralanr7 votesLast I checked, MS increases weren't registered as mobility for a lot of people.
Lord Azır4 votesLast I checked, MS increases weren't registered as mobility for a lot of people.
Right so 
, 
, 
, 
and 
are immobile champions right?
Ralanr6 votesOnly Hec can jump through walls. Wall hopping is common with mobility.
Lord Azır2 votesOnly Hec can jump through walls. Wall hopping is common with mobility.
You can't count a champions ult as to whether they are mobile or not lmfao. A jump on a 60 second cooldown doesn't make a champion go from immobile to mobile, especially when that's not hecarims main form of chasing / escaping.
EndlessSorcerer9 votesYou can't count a champions ult as to whether they are mobile or not lmfao.
So, you're saying that Ahri, Kassadin, Diana and Akali are immobile champions since they rely on their ultimates for mobility?
Pfft.
Lord Azır1 votesSo, you're saying that Ahri, Kassadin, Diana and Akali are immobile since they rely on their ultimate's for mobility?
Pfft.
Diana, Akali and Kassadin are immobile though. That's the main reason they see 0 play in pro play. Their immobility gets them camped early in lane and put really far behind. As for Ahri she has a move speed buff on her Q so no she isn't immobile.
Ralanr8 votes...
What?
DrCyanide3 votes... Kassadin has a pretty steady play rate in the EU LCS. Diana and Akali aren't played because they're far more snowball reliant and can only go in to fights, but even then Splice played Akali in one of their last games and were about to win the game too.
Lord Azır2 votes... Kassadin has a pretty steady play rate in the EU LCS. Diana and Akali aren't played because they're far more snowball reliant and can only go in to fights, but even then Splice played Akali in one of their last games and were about to win the game too.
Exactly they can only go in. It's like saying 
is a mobile champion. He has a targeted gap closer on his ult. The exact same as Diana and Akali.
DrCyanide1 votesTargeted gap closer that can only go in isn't bad on it's own (
are in similar boats), it's the snowball reliance that's the killer as far as the LCS is concerned.
is in the same category as 
etc. Near global mobility that is prioritized for that moment when someone overextends or you want to collapse on them. I suspect Nocturne's not picked because of his generally squishy nature and falling off in team-fights against coordinated enemies.
Champions that can dash multiple times over the course of 5 seconds shouldn't be considered immobile. That's what describes 
, and that's why no one took you serious on the mobility argument.
Lord Azır2 votesTargeted gap closer that can only go in isn't bad on it's own (
Champions that can dash multiple times over the course of 5 seconds shouldn't be considered immobile. That's what describes
Yeah but people are commenting saying that it doesn't matter if a champion has a gap closer for a ult it's still a gap closer and that makes them mobile. So that basically means champions like 
are all considered mobile champions because their ult in some form is used as a gap closer.
Astôlfo1 votes"Diana, Akali and Kassadin are immobile though."
Are we talking about the same game or did some Chinese rip off copy even their names now?
Lord Azır2 votesAre we talking about the same game or did some Chinese rip off copy even their names now?
Diana and Akali have targetted gap closers on their ulti's. The exact same as . SO is nocturne a mobile champion to you now or what?
Astôlfo1 votesYes except Nocturne's ult has a 150/125/100 second cooldown. While Diana's ult has a 25/20/15 second cooldown that resets to 0 if used on a target afflicted with her Q status. And Akali's ult has a recharge system of 30/22.5/15 seconds with like a 2/1.5/1 second cooldown between uses?
Lord Azır2 votesYes except Nocturne's ult has a 150/125/100 second cooldown. While Diana's ult has a 25/20/15 second cooldown that resets to 0 if used on a target afflicted with her Q status. And Akali's ult has a recharge system of 30/22.5/15 seconds with like a 2/1.5/1 second cooldown between uses?
Cooldowns don't matter. That's like saying 
E gap closer doesn't count as a gap closer because it's on a 1 minute cooldown. Mobility is mobility. So if Diana and Akalis targeted gap closers count as mobility then so does nocturne ult.
Astôlfo1 votesUh yeah except 1 minute is still fairly short.
Warmanreaper1 votesKassadin doesn't rely on his ulti.. lol tf
Buff Jax please4 votesYeah Udyr is immobile.
Ralanr1 votesBravo good sir. I can't help but laugh here.
Astôlfo4 votesHe is incredibly immobile.
For him to get said MS buff, he has to either hit a crit or land his W root. If you get in his face, sure, he might crit you. But guess what? He should already be dead by that point.
And his W cast time means he'll never reliably be able to auto-W without dying first.
Penns3 votes"In his face" = 750 range with 
Astôlfo1 votesWhich he has to charge up in the first place by running around. Jhin autos RFC range increase, MS passive proc enemy champ uses gapcloser kills Jhin ???
Penns2 votesMore like Jhin autos RFC range increase Jhin hits W enemy dies lul
Astôlfo1 votesIf you can't manage to dodge his W without literally any form of CC on you, you're terrible and deserve to die.
Penns2 votesSo you never get hit by skillshots? lel
Astôlfo1 votes??? Not by an incredibly thin one that's literally that clearly pre-casted with the indicator line shown like for a full second before it fires.
Penns3 votesIve seen enough people get caught by a Jhin snare without cc on them and Im pretty sure you have too.
Astôlfo4 votesThen they are just bad and deserved it.
Penns1 votesYoure bronze 4 tho Kappa
redniwediS3 votesI do hope you realize that calling him bronze 4 right now is more of an insult toward yourself. If you're going to call someone on their rank instead of provide a real argument at least make sure you're not wrong.
It's a thin snare with a short but clearly telegraphed animation. If you get hit by it you deserved it.
Penns6 voteshttps://i.gyazo.com/414afa6f03d30aeb130bec2f01c9b879.gif Better? My argument is dont call people bad when youre Bronze 4 lel.
redniwediS3 votesNot really sure what that picture is supposed to mean. If you run straight away from the skillshot you deserve to get hit by it. Slow reaction times are punished.
redniwediS5 votesWell, by his own argument he deserved to get hit by that one.
Astôlfo3 votesIt's amazing how bad you are at reading. Or just using your eyes. I had been hit by CC almost directly before and had been slowed or something as well and was just getting away as Jhin immediately W'd after. Also, I am bad, what of it? Doesn't make others any less worse for being hit by it.
Penns2 votesYou used qss before so you werent slowed. Im not trying to call you bad but you said you never get hit by such a thin skillshot.
Warmanreaper2 votesNotice how she didn't sidestep.. you prove his point.. You just made your self look like an idiot.
DrCyanide2 votesI'm also noticing the QSS Active, which I'm guessing means he had a form of CC on him just before the gif starts.
EndlessSorcerer3 votesYou realize that the player in the GIF is nep2une, right?
The same person who said that anyone getting hit by Jhin's W are just bad and deserved it.
Astôlfo2 votesYeah and? I am bad therefore I got hit by it. What's your point?
Warmanreaper2 votesYou're EU tho Kappa Kappa
Penns1 votesEUW > NA :]
Warmanreaper1 votesThat's not what the crossworld lcs said 3 years in a row cough we beat EU all 3 years cough
WoonStruck1 votesRight, diamond, master, and professional players are all bad and deserve it.
The large majority of the time, they use his snare without any prior CC, outside of maybe a slow via his trap.
The problem with bronze arguments right here...
Astôlfo2 votesUh if they can't dodge something like Jhin's W with literally no CC or any other impeding factor, they deserve it. Nice fail.
WoonStruck1 votesGee, you'd think Nid would be a worse pick if it was literally impossible to hit her Q, which is about the size of Jhin's snare.
Gee, you'd think Jhin would be a worse pick in professional if his snare was so unreliable.
You're bad at making arguments, FYI. Go troll somewhere else.
Astôlfo2 votesAnd you're a hypocrite. The irony is delicious. Go whine and cry somewhere else.
Or at least try to have correct points next time lmao
