Can you guys please nerf sona?

GripaAviara·Nov 16, 2017·4 votes·933 views

Just played vs Sona+Ezreal. Both abusing klepto, murama bug and sona being in busted state

So much fun

19 Comments

MysticDreams12Nov 16, 20175 votes

No. She doesn't need nerfs. She was fine before the runes. Some runes are just too strong on her, and they are the ones that NEED nerfs.

PennsNov 16, 20173 votes

mfw 55% win rate with like 15% pick rate is fine for supports hehe

Dr PheepNov 16, 20174 votes

Second this. ^

Sona has already been nerfed to oblivion. Before the new runes, she was in a "meh" state in the game. Don't nerf a champ that can't be nerfed to the point where they become a minion.

Sona Q too strong!->Nerf->Sona heals too much!->Nerf->Sona has an Unholy Chalice!->Nerf->Sona just died!->Nerf->Sona got a rework!->Nerf->Sona moves too fast!->Nerf. And now it's these runes are too strong, but we'll nerf Sona... NO! Leave her alone! Next thing you know it'll be "Sona has boots! Make her movement speed 200! [sona-playing]

Pika310Nov 16, 20172 votes

~~#BetterNerfIrelia~~ #BetterNerfSona

Dr PheepNov 16, 20176 votes

Except Irelia wasn't nerfed for +3 years, meanwhile Sona...

#AlwaysNerfSona #SheCantSpeakSoSheHasNoRights

Pika310Nov 17, 20172 votes

That's exactly right, but the nerf Irelia meme lasted for years, despite not receiving any nerfs that whole time. It's just that the community can't forget what happened: glaring imbalances and OP characters/interactions that needed immediate attention, as always, like today. So Rito decided to nerf Irelia **COMPLETELY **out of nowhere. A nerf that was **COMPLETELY **immaterial to the unanswered problems.

Yes, Sona nowadays embodies this far better, she hasn't gone a full season since season 3 without being unjustifiably nerfed, like Irelia was that one singular time, but repeatedly instead.

Sona was gutted in 3.14 to "compensate" for Spellthief's Edge being created, lost her place in the top tier to Nami as a result.
Sona was gutted in 4.13 and disappeared from competitive play, still to this day.
Sona was gutted in 4.16 and 4.20 to "compensate" for being gutted in 4.13.
Sona was gutted in 5.1 to "compensate" for DFG being removed from the game, despite not being a DFG-user.
Sona was gutted in 6.14 **TWICE **and then gutted again in 6.16 to compensate once more for being gutted.
Now here we are, Sona being gutted in 7.22 again as "compensation" for indirect changes that affected **ALL **supports and **NOT **just Sona.

Sona has been nerfed and nerfed and nerfed again and nerfed some more for good measure, I can't even **FATHOM **how the fuck people actually believe the misnomer she's playable at this point, let alone the absurd fallacy that she's somehow "OP." Every challenger Sona player has **QUIT **playing Sona/LoL because of the joke she's become. Rito is so obsessed with **NERFING **Sona, that she's never even had a single TRUE BUFF in the entire history of this game.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sona/History

Devilreaper XIIINov 17, 20173 votes

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That's exactly right, but the nerf Irelia meme lasted for years, despite not receiving any nerfs that whole time. It's just that the community can't forget what happened: glaring imbalances and OP characters/interactions that needed immediate attention, as always, like today. So Rito decided to nerf Irelia **COMPLETELY **out of nowhere. A nerf that was **COMPLETELY **immaterial to the unanswered problems.

Yes, Sona nowadays embodies this far better, she hasn't gone a full season since season 3 without being unjustifiably nerfed, like Irelia was that one singular time, but repeatedly instead.

Sona was gutted in 3.14 to "compensate" for Spellthief's Edge being created, lost her place in the top tier to Nami as a result.

Sona was gutted in 4.13 and disappeared from competitive play, still to this day.

Sona was gutted in 4.16 and 4.20 to "compensate" for being gutted in 4.13.

Sona was gutted in 5.1 to "compensate" for DFG being removed from the game, despite not being a DFG-user.

Sona was gutted in 6.14 **TWICE **and then gutted again in 6.16 to compensate once more for being gutted.

Now here we are, Sona being gutted in 7.22 again as "compensation" for indirect changes that affected **ALL **supports and **NOT **just Sona.

Sona has been nerfed and nerfed and nerfed again and nerfed some more for good measure, I can't even **FATHOM **how the fuck people actually believe the misnomer she's playable at this point, let alone the absurd fallacy that she's somehow "OP." Every challenger Sona player has **QUIT **playing Sona/LoL because of the joke she's become. Rito is so obsessed with **NERFING **Sona, that she's never even had a single TRUE BUFF in the entire history of this game.

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Sona/History

and she still is a monster..... high sustain high mobility high damage, can't miss, procs enhanced basic attacks...

Pika310Nov 17, 20172 votes

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and she still is a monster..... high sustain high mobility high damage, can't miss, procs enhanced basic attacks...

Lowest healing in the entire game: "high sustain"
Lowest base MS, no blinks or dashes, just a shitty 1-point spell not taken til level 4 or 9: "high mobility"
Lowest damage bases and scalings of the entire support class: "high damage"
Inability to control her spells and the ability to completely misfire if nobody is in range, completely burning the mana and cooldown anyways: "can't miss"
1-time-only on-hit modifiers, meanwhile:

Nami 3 on-hit modifiers per-cast Lulu permanent on-hit modifier, which she can give to an ally for 6 WHOLE FUCKING SECONDS (looking at you Kog'Maw) Janna permanent on-hit modifier **AND **can give an ally up-to 40 (+ 10% AP) bonus AD for 5 WHOLE FUCKING SECONDS (every ADC's dream) Thresh permanent on-hit modifier Bard periodic, infinite-scaling on-hit modifiers (which he can stack additional procs) **WITH **infinite-scaling AoE and infinite-scaling slows

Did you even stop and wonder why Janna/Lulu were nearly pick/ban at worlds? While Sona was a genuine troll-pick?

Sona gives your ADC +50 damage for a singular basic attack. Lulu gives your ADC +117 damage to **EVERY **basic attack for 6 WHOLE FUCKING SECONDS. Janna gives your ADC + 40 AD for 5 WHOLE FUCKING SECONDS. Whether you're Kog'Maw or even Caitlyn or Jhin, you're probably going to be attacking more than a single fucking time every nth seconds.

Go ahead, fucking check everything yourself:

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/League_of_Legends_Wiki

Sona is a fucking joke. She's not even playable, sheeple are just worshiping an artificially inflated winrate. Even despite **YOUR **Rito-gods consistently telling players to STOP WORSHIPING WINRATES:

https://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/data-and-champion-balance-part-1

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/PAtL0xel-quick-gameplay-thoughts-november-10?comment=006a0000

Devilreaper XIIINov 16, 20172 votes

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No. She doesn't need nerfs. She was fine before the runes. Some runes are just too strong on her, and they are the ones that NEED nerfs.

she needs a nerf for sure, she need skillshots... shes way too opressive her hirate is 100% unless she doesn't get near you enough -.-

well its not really a nerf i guess but it would be a good change.

MysticDreams12Nov 16, 20173 votes

No, she doesn't. Didn't you read what I just said?

Devilreaper XIIINov 17, 20172 votes

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No, she doesn't. Didn't you read what I just said?

and? you people are oblivious to the point she procs hard she runs fast she can stun she shields and heals AND she can't miss attacks these are facts, she was never gutted at all anyone who claims this is delusional, all i said btw is that they should give her skillshots so you actually have to aim, i mean how is that not a fair request? i mean in terms its not a even a nerf.

its not the runes at all, she was over powered before the runes and still is... the runes did nothing to sona, heck ap got nerfed early game with the new runes.

ZephyrDrakeNov 17, 20173 votes

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and? you people are oblivious to the point she procs hard she runs fast she can stun she shields and heals AND she can't miss attacks these are facts, she was never gutted at all anyone who claims this is delusional, all i said btw is that they should give her skillshots so you actually have to aim, i mean how is that not a fair request? i mean in terms its not a even a nerf.

its not the runes at all, she was over powered before the runes and still is... the runes did nothing to sona, heck ap got nerfed early game with the new runes.

so what you are telling me is "buff Sona's damage SIGNIFICANTLY and make her be able to heal and shield SIGNIFICANTLY more"? since that is what is going to happen if you want to give her skillshots she doesn't need. She is a squishy champion that will get blown up if her positioning is even slightly off. You are a delusional if you think that she is actually strong because of herself and not because of runes. Yes she can't miss her Q damage or autos... too bad her Qs have a base damage of 160 at max rank with a 50% scaling.... that is pitiful. Yes she can heal and shield... for terrible amounts 110 (+25% AP) is her max rank heal, 125 (+30% AP) is her max rank shield. Every single other heal in the game is higher than hers, every single other shield in the game is higher than hers. She can stun yes, and this is a skillshot that is deceptively easy to dodge.

Tell me again, how is it that she is strong on her own? she has the 3rd lowest initial HP! and one of the lowest HP values at max level! her armor values are very low as well. She is not tanky at all by herself. Her W which is her heal/shield costs 100 mana at max rank for such pitiful values.

MysticDreams12Nov 17, 20171 votes

All Sona has gotten in her whole life, basically, is NERFS.

You are the only one delusional here, my man. Her heals and damage are pretty pitiful, she has to build a sheen item to be worth any significance and a support item that gives her heal and shield power to help late game.

You can miss her q actually. If you aren't in range, it will won't attack anyone. But since Riot made it to prioritize champions it will do that if you are in range. She sacrifices ranged spells and very low defensive stats because of this power.

Everyone will tell you she was lackluster before the runes. She, just like Ezreal, are abusing some right now which are the things that NEED NERFS.

Not Sona.

Stop QQing about how you got your butt kicked, and learn how to play against her.

Good Lord.

SamBunzlyNov 16, 20173 votes

Sona's balanced. She's been fine for multiple patches before the preseason. The only thing busted would be Ezreal's item 3042 glitch, and his Q applying on-hit effects.

Kleptomancy isn't overpowered. Seriously. The only busted part about it is, again, Ezreal's Q. It just rewards Sona for doing something she usually does.

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No. She doesn't need nerfs. She was fine before the runes. Some runes are just too strong on her, and they are the ones that NEED nerfs.

I have to agree with MysticDreams12 here, the runes are what are the most busted here. Klepto seems to be one of the more balanced ones here, for being a keystone rune and all, but other runes (mainly those in precision and domination) seem to be too overpowered.