Revolutionary Yasuo fix

The Ecdysiast··2 votes·364 views

"Herr durr you lost one match so this obviously is unrelated to your 3 years of playing Yasuo."

-- To make it clear, I've put several years of thought into what's wrong with Yasuo's kit. This has nothing to do with recent games, but with people's fear of him in general leading to me not being able to play him unless 6 assassins have been reworked so they're higher priority bans.

I had an idea to fix Yasuo with a simple change in scaling-- in direct response to the changes in strength made when crit items were changed to require only 2 t get to 50% instead of the prior 3. Keep his doubled crit chance...

But instead of the -10% and -25% (on Q) reduction, change it so **the bonus damage of his crits is exactly the amount of crit chance he has purchased. **

That way, if he buys 50% crit, yes he has guaranteed crits, but they deal only +50% bonus damage.

If he wants them to be even as effective as now, he'd have to buy another crit item. But as a balance for opting out of purchasing a defense item, purchasing a full 100% crit chance would make his crits stronger than they've ever been.

Not only would this change give him a bit more counterplay early in the game, but it would weaken defense-heavy builds while strengthening damage-heavy builds, so that he could be focused down much more easily.

15 Comments

MLDzXnRRR6 votes

Yasuo is not overpowered, he is annoying. Crits are the least problematic aspect of his kit. His lategame DPS is a joke compared to any melee DPS or fighter that for some reason goes with crit build, or ADC.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Which is exactly why I'm asking that he be returned to the crit build. This isn't some rage thread. I've put years of thought into this.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Which is exactly why I'm asking that he be returned to the crit build. This isn't some rage thread. I've put years of thought into this.

Look the items that people buy on him on champion.gg, op.gg and so on. Yasuo goes with crit items. Idk what are you talking about with this: "returned to the crit build".

The Ecdysiast1 votes

Before, 100% crit chance required 3 items. The marksman rework changed that to two for Yas.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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Before, 100% crit chance required 3 items. The marksman rework changed that to two for Yas.

Every Yasuo main was playing him with crit chance runes for the 100 % crit, so his laning was even more oppressive with RNG crits...

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No they weren't, and aside from that the random early crits weren't a guarantee of winning lane. Top lane, he was stronger than now because his armor ignorance was flat 50%, not 50% bonus-- and the stronger top laners hadn't been super-buffed yet.

But his laning both top and mid was more oppressive back then for reasons unrelated to critical hit chance. The damage of his E not only had a higher base, but also had double the increase from quick uses that it does now. His shield was back twice as fast as now since the stronger E also granted Flow, and higher . His Q cooldown had no cap--this alone made that first Zeal even more effective than it is now.

And when mid and roaming, he was stronger than the ADC's because the very items he bought were better on he than them at the same point in the game they'd want to purchase the items.

It was a different state of the game, with a Yasuo who had very different stats than he does now.

MLDzXnRRR1 votes

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No they weren't, and aside from that the random early crits weren't a guarantee of winning lane. Top lane, he was stronger than now because his armor ignorance was flat 50%, not 50% bonus-- and the stronger top laners hadn't been super-buffed yet.

But his laning both top and mid was more oppressive back then for reasons unrelated to critical hit chance. The damage of his E not only had a higher base, but also had double the increase from quick uses that it does now. His shield was back twice as fast as now since the stronger E also granted Flow, and higher . His Q cooldown had no cap--this alone made that first Zeal even more effective than it is now.

And when mid and roaming, he was stronger than the ADC's because the very items he bought were better on he than them at the same point in the game they'd want to purchase the items.

It was a different state of the game, with a Yasuo who had very different stats than he does now.

Ofc, they were playing with crit runes and some even were playing with AP runes for lvl 1 E cheese, before it got gutted... Your post is just a joke, but this is just a joke "Top lane, he was stronger than now because his armor ignorance was flat 50%, not 50% bonus-" - his armor pen now works only on crits, it was never flat.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

I can't take seriously someone who things rng means guaranteed....

Spicy Rice1 votes

Then wtf are you talking about? He already is back to the crit build.

Unless you want to put him back to being useless like in season 5 where you needed 3 crit items or crit runes, this change would be not be good at all

Bradley Dragon1 votes

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Then wtf are you talking about? He already is back to the crit build.

Unless you want to put him back to being useless like in season 5 where you needed 3 crit items or crit runes, this change would be not be good at all

he had the double crit chance so you would be at 100% crit with 3 items or damn near close. then they reworked crit itms to give almost twice as much crit then they used to give. his passive is broken now and should actually be removed. he only had it due to crit items being weak when he was released. im very surprised they didnt nerf his passive at the same time. full dmg yasuo literally 2-3 shots tanks with no effort

Sanctimonious1 votes

You're triggered by that plat 5 yasuo pubstomping... Smh. He's annoying currently, but not broken or deserving of nerfs.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

No, that game was while ago.

I'm triggered by the fact I've played Yasuo since the hour he was released and it's become so bad with peoples' fear of him that the only time he isn't banned is when 6 champions have been reworked so they're higher priority bans.

Smh....

And I won lane. All those kills were from just pressing R when Vi did, on our 0-4 jungler and bot. I can't control trolling allies. (ADC Ahri and jungle Miss Fortune,)

It's pretty sad when someone bothers to look up match history but doesn't see the champion in question is the poster's highest mastery score.

Spicy Rice1 votes

No offense m8, but 40something thousand is nothing.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

That'd be because I played him a lot before Mastery was implemented, and haven't bothered trying to lately with how much he's banned.

Doozku1 votes

People can still buy PD and crit-cloak and then rush tanky items. Then they finish IE later.

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