This is officially the Tank"y" meta.

Valhalla Rising·Sep 4, 2016·92 votes·4,955 views

Mages be like Assasins be like Marksmen be like

lul.

99 Comments

JofeyySep 4, 201619 votes

Forgot item 3812

xelakerSep 4, 20164 votes

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Forgot

I thought I was the only one who uses that thing...

JofeyySep 4, 201613 votes

Tbh item 3046 and item 3812 are a scary combo.

Some people just really like to dance LOL

Solari FortuneSep 5, 20163 votes

Tristana "Time to fill up my dance card!"

jeremiahBIOSep 6, 20161 votes

Trist cant even dance!

YumaS2AstralSep 5, 20163 votes

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Tbh and are a scary combo.

Some people just really like to dance LOL

One of the reasons why Graves can be tanky and deal so much damage at same time

doombotMECHASep 6, 20161 votes

graves is so dumb like riot why

SlashStrikerSep 6, 20161 votes

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Forgot

this does not reduce the damage its just delayed and you will still take it

Bodkins OddsSep 7, 20161 votes

It gives you what you need to out heal it though.

Smok3McCl0udSep 4, 201614 votes

This meta is the absolute fucking worst. Glass cannon should be viable.

YCitizenSnipsYSep 4, 20168 votes

Yeah becasue no one ever complained about glass cannon assassins, mages, or adc's.

FantasySniperSep 4, 201610 votes

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Voluug13Sep 4, 201611 votes

That... is the build that most battle mages always used? Malzahar Cassiopeia Swain Annie Anivia Lissandra always used those items, and Vladimir Rumble too without RoA.

The real problem at the moment is that Azir and Viktor rushing Rylai's put the item into the spotlight, with everyone and their mother calling it OP being the new bandwagon. The item always existed, the real reason why its being built a bit more of champions that didnt before is because of the mobility creep, or because the MYMU made some champions too unreliable without it.

ForgiveColourSep 5, 20161 votes

because of mobility creep

Yeah this is why i cant take you seriously LMAO

RavoreSep 5, 20164 votes

Except he's right and you're jsut flat out wrong....It gives great ap mp and has an amazing effect? Are you trolling? Are you memer?

BlakiepugSep 4, 20166 votes

This season has really narrowed the diversity pool of different builds in game with one dominant build staying atop all the rest for pretty much the entire season. I wish Riot would take a look back at items in the preseason, I am really sick of seeing how much better the armor pen. adc build is than all the rest. We need more diversity in champion build paths so that players are actually thinking about what they are buying as opposed to just pulling up champion.gg and seeing the highest winrate build that works under all circumstances.

9L9L9L9L9L9L9LSep 4, 20165 votes

Since when is Yomuu and Dominiks considered tanky items?

dominusxSep 4, 201646 votes

i think he meant cleaver and maw which are both rather strong and help you survive most scenarios

Valhalla RisingSep 4, 201620 votes

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i think he meant cleaver and maw which are both rather strong and help you survive most scenarios

and pd

dominusxSep 5, 20163 votes

yeh pd is pretty much one of the best items ( and one of my favorites ) in the game atm and i like it's design a LOT. but add maw and cleaver and the adc can facetank burst and flash heal out and then continue manslaughter you. dont get me wrong i dont mind adc but when i jump on it and i do 90% of his health and he flashes out heals and then gets 180 health per hit with 1.6 attack speed then yeh dunno. at least its no the old bt where you would heal 900 health per auto with nocturne and olaf

HaloDragonXSep 5, 20162 votes

PD too, gives around 500 extra HP effectively.

Valhalla RisingSep 4, 20168 votes

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Since when is Yomuu and Dominiks considered tanky items?

they are "tank busting" items, becaue of the tanky meta. plus the pd/bc/maw for some self tankyness

9L9L9L9L9L9L9LSep 4, 20164 votes

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... they are "tank busting" items, becaue of the tanky meta. plus the pd/bc/maw for some self tankyness

Sorry misunderstood what you said, lul

General LeviSep 6, 20161 votes

Youmoos is terrible for "Tank busting" it's used to kill squishies early because of the flat armor pen

Troll for TrumpSep 5, 20165 votes

Assassins be like Ekko Fizz Yasuo

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/files/bloguploads/dumb-sonic-10.gif

BurnSnakeSep 4, 20163 votes

Since when did an assassin go that build.

AdriqnoheeSep 5, 20163 votes

Ekko.

Wind WhistlerSep 4, 20162 votes

Really, Zhonya's is a poor choice for an AP Tank build. Frozen Heart is much better. Also, Rabadons is usually better than Liandry's.

Tychusfindlay919Sep 4, 201638 votes

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Really, Zhonya's is a poor choice for an AP Tank build. Frozen Heart is much better. Also, Rabadons is usually better than Liandry's.

"tanky" not tank. And the OP is right, everyone is building somewhat tanky even if only slightly because damage (with the help of keystones) is unbelievably fucking high right now.

Wind WhistlerSep 4, 20162 votes

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"tanky" not tank. And the OP is right, everyone is building somewhat tanky even if only slightly because damage (with the help of keystones) is unbelievably fucking high right now.

??? It's called a defensive item. Zhonya's is a defensive item, too. The only difference is that the stats Zhonya's Hourglass gives are shit compared to what Frozen Heart gives.

By your logic, if you build Randuin's Omen on Darius, but all of your other items are AD, you're building him as a tank.

Tychusfindlay919Sep 4, 20167 votes

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??? It's called a defensive item. Zhonya's is a defensive item, too. The only difference is that the stats Zhonya's Hourglass gives are shit compared to what Frozen Heart gives.

By your logic, if you build Randuin's Omen on Darius, but all of your other items are AD, you're building him as a tank.

No it's bruiser-like more oriented towards damage, or as the OP was saying, "tanky"

No one is saying league of tanks, just league of tankier than normal builds.

Wind WhistlerSep 5, 20161 votes

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No it's bruiser-like more oriented towards damage, or as the OP was saying, "tanky"

No one is saying league of tanks, just league of tankier than normal builds.

Then couldn't you say the same for someone who builds a Frozen Heart on Vel'Koz?

MelledoneusSep 5, 20162 votes

Who the fuck builds Frozen Heart on Vel'koz?

SkiasSep 5, 20165 votes

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Who the fuck builds Frozen Heart on Vel'koz?

Archangel's staff ap conversion.

VantiaSep 5, 20161 votes

Oh god, please don't tell me people actually do this.

DarkSunSovereignSep 5, 20162 votes

I know a Master tier Syndra main who does this when against 4-5 ad champs. Overlord Forte in case you were wondering.

MelledoneusSep 5, 20163 votes

Syndra makes sense, she requires quite a bit of setup and needs to get in relatively close to most kill ranges of enemy champions. But artillery mages should not have to build pure tank items like Frozen Heart unless they have accepted that their team has no CC or don't know how to peel.

MelledoneusSep 5, 20161 votes

Wouldn't you be better off just buying another AP item with a better effect?

SkiasSep 5, 20162 votes

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Wouldn't you be better off just buying another AP item with a better effect?

I'm not saying I do it. I'm saying that's the logic. Frozen heart works on anivia though. Late game, it takes forever to crush your egg with the armor bonus from egg passive and FH plus attack speed slow.

MelledoneusSep 5, 20162 votes

I can see Anivia and mages that have shorter ranges like Swain, Ryze, and Malzahar, but Vel'koz? He's an artillery mage and if you need armor to deal with enemies in your face, either get Zhonya's or figure out why enemies are getting in your face to begin with, especially with your team being around.

Wind WhistlerSep 5, 20161 votes

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Who the fuck builds Frozen Heart on Vel'koz?

Someone who isn't a sheep and wants a cost efficient item that helps you to spam abilities while being tanky.

MelledoneusSep 5, 20161 votes

Frozen heart isn't optimal unless you have a high health pool. I think it's better to build items with passives that can help you utilize your range against your opponents, because if they are able to get that close to you anyway you might as well be dead.

PyrokineticmageSep 5, 20162 votes

People on the boards need to be more consistent in what they say. People say there is too much damage in this game, and now people say there are too many free tank stats.

So which is it?

GayFluffyUnicornSep 5, 20162 votes

Tank stats to somehow survive all the dmg in the game.

PB4UAMESep 5, 20161 votes

This.

Too much damage makes people have to build defenses to be able to play the game/react if they are hit by so much as a stray CC.

NiyumiSep 5, 20162 votes

This is the braindead meta, where the easiest champions are the strongest, and anyone with skillshots or complex mechanics is just a waste of fucking IP/RP. ADCs are gods, tanks with % max health damage are demigods, and targeted damage is king.

... oh wait, that's just F2P.

PB4UAMESep 5, 20162 votes

I would not say that champion like Volibear and Garen are particularly strong atm.

NiyumiSep 5, 20161 votes

Both are strong if played properly, both can just about one shot you.

PB4UAMESep 6, 20161 votes

According to OP.gg Garen is 98th (out of 132) in winrate in ranked (all Elos) with a 47.91% winrate. Voli does a bit better at 89th, with a winrate of 48.30%

However, in diamond only, Volibear is 82nd, with a winrate of 49.51% which is better for him, but still in the bottom half of champions. Things look much worse for Garen, as he's the second lowest winrate champion in the entire game with a sub 40% winrate (38.78%)

I'll grant that Voli can situationally be okay, if a bit sub-par. Garen however is only good if the people you play against are garbage, and could really use some love.

PB4UAMESep 6, 20161 votes

Oh, and one more thing, neither champion can one shot you. Even if you're the villain, you need to already be at roughly 1/3 hp for Garen's ult to kill you. That is, in no form, a one shot.

Likewise, the only way Voli can conceivably be a burst threat is if he uses his w on you. . . which is also an execute which already tells you its not gonna one shot anything. Additionally, he needs to auto attack 3 times in a row in quick succession before he can activate it (so at best a 4-shot) but even then, if he uses it at its strongest (which would mean you're at 1% hp, meaning its massive overkill at this point) its only 517 + 29.85% of his bonus health in physical damage, and a volibear will not have any armor penetration or reduction. That wont even half health most champions-- neglecting the fact that it would do far less damage if they weren't basically dead to begin with.