Stop that shit. If you are going to dodge, then dodge way before we are nearly in the loading screen, especially in ARAM lobbys. Why would you wait until 2 seconds left in the champ select lobby to dodge?
God Raijin51 votesI think it's because it theoretically maximizes their chances that someone else will take the dodge instead of them. Like if they are "skilled" enough to dodge at 0.1 seconds remaining, then someone might dodge before them at 1 second remaining. Yeah, it's a dick move, but if it saves them 3 Lp in ranked, or if it saves them a 15 minute aram timer then it's still worth it (for them)
Rito Staff4 votesOfc it's worth. ^
I do it. I don't dodge bad picks though. I don't support ARAM accs at all either.
It's just that sometimes I'm just too bored of a champion I keep getting, or it's my main. I like aram to play rare sht I almost dont play. Not to play Sion for the 1337th time
Tattersall1 votesUpvote, but only because 1337.
sobi9991 votes[{quoted}](name=God Raijin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-02-20T04:57:27.261+0000)
I think it's because it theoretically maximizes their chances that someone else will take the dodge instead of them. Like if they are "skilled" enough to dodge at 0.1 seconds remaining, then someone might dodge before them at 1 second remaining. Yeah, it's a dick move, but if it saves them 3 Lp in ranked, or if it saves them a 15 minute aram timer then it's still worth it (for them)
Looks like you're an expert in this field ;)
God Raijin1 votesWell Idk, I'm around 2500 MMR for aram, so I constantly see the same players. There was a very toxic guy on my team who would constantly sit in base an move his champ around to not get an AFK warning if he didn't feel like playing against certain team-comps/champions. So I was considering dodging when I saw that he was on my team.
In the end, I decided not to because our team was half decent, so I was guessing that he wouldn't afk. But then, in the last 2 seconds someone dodged the game, and I thought to my self "If I had dodged earlier, the one getting the time penalty would be me and not him, so clearly, the earlier you dodge, the worse. (if you're going to)
Personally, I very rarely dodge aram, maybe like one in 200 games, because I know that there is a very high chance that someone else is going to "do the dodging for me" so to speak, and if no one dodges, that's fine too, sometimes your team comp will look bad in champ select, but then theirs is worse, or maybe one of your "bad" champions counters one of their seemingly good champions.
But a big reason why I usually never dodge is because It's not very fun to sit in que for 20 minutes trying to find other high mmr players along with the 15 minute dodge timer.
Hexs Fortune16 votesThose last min aram dodges when you get a fun champ
Candoodle5 votes[zombie-nunu-bummed]
BladeSingularity1 votesEXACTLTY!
The three times out of 100 that I get one of my mains in ARAM is when someone. Freaking. DODGES!!!
Bunnymap7 votesSome people just want to watch the world burn
SSShutTheDuckUp5 votes
True that
Synnx77 votesTo tilt people. Downvote me
GigaPube5 votesTo all you assholes who do- n't surrender at 20 when the game is so obviously lost
Stop that shit. If we are going to lose, then surrender way before 50 minutes
BIG DADDY BARD19 votesIf the game drags out to 50 minutes, I don't really think one side was at much of a disadvantage.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=BIG DADDY BARD,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-02-20T13:50:54.602+0000)
If the game drags out to 50 minutes, I don't really think one side was at much of a disadvantage.
If the enemy team doesn't know how to end but you have no way to push back, they have all their turrets and you're down to nexus turrets, then 50 minute games where loss is guaranteed do happen.
BladeSingularity1 votesWell, you can still try to put a dent in them. They're doing Baron? Go push the lane with the weakest turret (or even send someone to try and steal Baron). They're MIA jungle farming or are split between lanes? Send everyone after their weakest member, and then push or defend based on how the team reacts. And so on ...
Pierce The Veal1 votesWell, you can still try to put a dent in them. They're doing Baron? Go push the lane with the weakest turret (or even send someone to try and steal Baron). They're MIA jungle farming or are split between lanes? Send everyone after their weakest member, and then push or defend based on how the team reacts. And so on ...
I mean why would they jungle farm or besplit between lanes when they're probably full build?
Nameless Voice4 votesIf the enemy team doesn't know how to end and you reach 50 minutes, just ace them once and win the game.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=Nameless Voice,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2017-02-21T00:33:24.712+0000)
If the enemy team doesn't know how to end and you reach 50 minutes, just ace them once and win the game.
Easier said than done when at least one champion needs to be put aside to defend.
Lauchmelder3 votesIf you managed to defend in that situation you should be full build at that time and your team shouldn't be weaker than theirs, thus you got a fair shot at winning.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=0004000000000002,timestamp=2017-02-21T02:57:54.836+0000)
If you managed to defend in that situation you should be full build at that time and your team shouldn't be weaker than theirs, thus you got a fair shot at winning.
Well they have the dragons, and plus you have to spend a lot of effort defending. Your fair shot is probably at most a 5% chance.
Lauchmelder1 votesMake it 40% because if the enemy team couldn't finish the game with such a lead they're the worse team.
Pierce The Veal1 votes[{quoted}](name=MadKnife IV,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=000400000000000200000000,timestamp=2017-02-22T09:39:09.873+0000)
Make it 40% because if the enemy team couldn't finish the game with such a lead they're the worse team.
Nah 10% at most. If your team messed up hard enough to get to that point it's because they're bad.
doiminat0r36004 votesI've won games that have lasted 70 minutes of back and fourth before. If I think we still have the chance to win that's over 20%, im taking that chance and playing hard.
deoje2994 votesNever give up, Never surrender.
BigBellBrute4 votesThey want to wait to see if someone else will dodge first.
Riot should just make a dodge a loss for the dodging player.
JavelinJoe2 votesThey already do count as a loss if they leave/afk in game, but if it was in the pick/bans that would be problematic since a simple connection issue (like how riot servers sometimes disconnect you for no apparent reason) could fail you your series.
Critmaster Garen3 votesThey want to wait to see if someone else will dodge first.
Riot should just make a dodge a loss for the dodging player.
because having a loss on an aram game for dodging is such a monumental punishment. like who gives a shit?
in ranked games i definitely do it too. no reason to take that lp loss and timer, when someone else is willing to do it. dont hate the player, hate the game.
BigBellBrute3 votes[{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=VBxNBqjv,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2017-02-20T18:40:54.182+0000)
because having a loss on an aram game for dodging is such a monumental punishment. like who gives a shit?
in ranked games i definitely do it too. no reason to take that lp loss and timer, when someone else is willing to do it. dont hate the player, hate the game.
The people that dodge obviously give a flip. Otherwise they wouldn't be dodging in the first place. Hand em an L if they dodge plus the standard penalty box queues.
And in ranked they should definitely hand someone a loss for dodging.
I read all these soapbox posts about the integrity of the rating system due to dynamic queue. Well what integrity does the system truly have in the first place if people can chicken out of any game that looks too hard?
Critmaster Garen4 votesif people can chicken out of any game that looks too hard?
dont blame them. there are certain games that are clearly lost in champ select. you dont have control over the picks of your teammates.
if your teamcomp is complete and utter shit, and the enemy team comp synergetic and built with an obvious strategy in mind, then you need to be able to dodge. dodging games is in a way a reflection of individual game knowledge and player skill in some way. recognizing, when your teammates would drag you down, because they already show poor decision making when it comes to forming a teamcomp.
i really dont want to be forced to play a game with 3 solo carry champions on my team against an organized yasuo knockup comp that is built around supporting him and the enemy cait.
the way lp losses for game dodges work, limits how much that can happen. so i think the system is rather fine in that regard. arams are a different issue.
Nameless Voice2 votesNo. You shouldn't get loss because one or more of your teammates are flaming or trolling from champion select.
If anyone deserves the loss there, it's the person who actually caused the dodge.
qqpp2 votesIt shouldn't be a loss for the dodging player, sometimes I will dodge if a teammate is going to int or if they are just toxic (mainly because of autofill :/). Or bugsplats, those happen.
Colgate Gator4 votesAs some people have already stated, it's because they're dipshits and want to see if someone else will take a dodge before them.
RoyalMachine1 votesit seems like the only appropriate response to
support, 
jungle or 
mid
SH Azykan4 votesnow wait, ez mid is still completely legit vs the right lanes. He absolutely dicks on talon right now (talon should NEVER hit the return W making his all in super bad pre 6 and ez can just harass him out of lane all day)
RoyalMachine1 voteslol no, ezreal has no kill pressure on talon(nor anyone). as talon I will simply push the wave with my w and perma roam, which is exactly what talon wants to do, and ezreal has 0 tools to punish.
SH Azykan2 votesyou play vs pretty bad ezreals if you think he has no kill pressure...
RoyalMachine1 voteswhatever , just don't mention talon on that list. if ez goes to auto talon he will get both w parts, and talon has q to sustain ez w harass. if talon cant kill ez he will just sustain with q and push with w, and then perma roam.
BladeSingularity1 votes"W harass"
It's Q... :/
Skins Project1 votesno it's w, AP ezreal is more common mid, his q just procks lich, his w is based off of ap.
SH Azykan1 votesI still max Q on AP ez first ranking up W doesnt increase the scaling, just the base damage, and your q is far better with ranks (lowers the cd of other skills when you hit things, and also helps you cs and shove better since w doesnt hit creeps) also Q still scales on AP
however once you start getting pen, W does get stronger than the Q
Skins Project1 votesYe ye wasn't referring to maxing, I'm just referring to the damage dealt & what's used for poking/harassing.
Skins Project1 votesWhat the fuck, what ap ezreal is walking up and aa'ing, especially in early game...
BladeSingularity1 votesAhem ...
AP Ezreal mid.
100+ damage Qs at level 1.
SwiftKitten882 votesit seems like the only appropriate response to
as someone who used to play a lot when it was viable season 1-4, i take offense to that.
(well technically it was viable until 5.5 but w/e)
right now i would prob dodge if i saw it too because nid cant support for shit anymore. but it still makes me feel bad.
Mr Killalot1 votesSorry but if you ban my champ/flame/troll in champ select, I'm gonna make you suffer for it.
Lord Galvatron1 votesI go into a lobby and someone autolocks Teemo and calls any lane but Top. I'm checking his profile and seeing if he's a Teemo main. If he's not and has been Bronze for 3+ seasons I would be a moron not to dodge the game.