People are still in this illusion that Thresh is the best support

SwapShadows·Oct 24, 2015·9 votes·1,984 views

LOL

18 Comments

TurquoiseYoshiOct 24, 20154 votes

Overall, he honestly is. If you are going to pick one specific support champion to main in Solo Queue, it should be Thresh. He fits all comps and all playstyles. No other support champions has anywhere near as good use in all situations. Sure, Alistar is a better kill laner, Janna is better disengage, and Braum is better against poke and at Lv 1, but they can't perform in other situations.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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Overall, he honestly is. If you are going to pick one specific support champion to main in Solo Queue, it should be Thresh. He fits all comps and all playstyles. No other support champions has anywhere near as good use in all situations. Sure, Alistar is a better kill laner, Janna is better disengage, and Braum is better against poke and at Lv 1, but they can't perform in other situations.

no you should main the supports that don't take any skill and perform decently or amazing in most teamcomps.

alistar, janna, blitzcrank etc.

TurquoiseYoshiOct 25, 20151 votes

So.... Thresh? Little skill, performs well in all team comp? And in any case, those champions don't work in most teamcomps. If your team is high on engage and going in, Janna's gonna be useless. If your team comp is a late game scaling comp, your Blitz won't help a lot. If your enemy has a lot of engage and you don't want to get rekt, Alistar isn't your guy.

RenailleOct 24, 20154 votes

Thresh is the most versatile and safe support pick. He isn't bad in any comp or matchup.

Dragonlord7137Oct 24, 20151 votes

Oh but he's played by all the pro players which clearly makes vain + thresh bottom lane the best possible combination with no counter play whatsoever.

Hayaishi2Oct 24, 20152 votes

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Oh but he's played by all the pro players which clearly makes vain + thresh bottom lane the best possible combination with no counter play whatsoever.

What? Thresh is probably the least reliable support because of the amount of counterplay he has. Only Nami is more unreliable that him.

DoofsOct 24, 20151 votes

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What? Thresh is probably the least reliable support because of the amount of counterplay he has. Only Nami is more unreliable that him.

That being said the only reason people play Thresh in the Lcs is because he's a freaking god there. The amount of times you can't do anything as Thresh are non-existent. He's overall a good pick, and a fan favourite.

ParessOct 24, 20151 votes

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Oh but he's played by all the pro players which clearly makes vain + thresh bottom lane the best possible combination with no counter play whatsoever.

Kalista Thresh.

Literally. Impossible.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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Oh but he's played by all the pro players which clearly makes vain + thresh bottom lane the best possible combination with no counter play whatsoever.

this is the most noobiest post I have read this month.

Dragonlord7137Oct 28, 20151 votes

I'm sorry that your level of understanding sarcasm is so clearly above everyone else's

VesarixxOct 24, 20151 votes

Bard That's dank

HemopartyOct 24, 20151 votes

Honestly in the early game I can just run away after Thresh hooks me. It's the friendly robot man that scares me.

SEKAIOct 25, 20151 votes

Do you want 100% in one category but 30% for the rest or 70% for all of them?

Yeah the latter is pretty much Thresh is a nutshell.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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Do you want 100% in one category but 30% for the rest or 70% for all of them?

Yeah the latter is pretty much Thresh is a nutshell.

except it's really not.

Thresh is terrible in poke comps, hes an amateur in disengage comps and pick comps relies on him actually being played by a good thresh main due to him using his abilities correctly. Now compare this to most supports who are great at disengage, engage poke etc while also being 10x easier to play.

this whole misconception of "thresh does everything" is going too far

SEKAIOct 25, 20152 votes

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Thresh is terrible in poke comps, hes an amateur in disengage comps

Everyone is except for someone like Taric, and that's pretty much his only usefulness most of the time.

and pick comps relies on him actually being played by a good thresh main due to him using his abilities correctly.

Any champ is trash when not used correctly. Unless we're talking about batshiet insane cases like Morde where anything just goes.

Now compare this to most supports who are great at disengage, engage poke etc while also being 10x easier to play.

This is what people always use when they're defending an overloaded champion, 100% of the time, and there is a reason for that.

Because there is no downside to a loaded piece of nonsense, so they instead turn around and say that their advantage is the disadvantage because their kit is bigger and supposedly harder to play.

While the reality is not such case because you do NOT need to master it to be useful or strong, hence a bigger kit brings nothing but pluses.

The "my champ is harder to play so they should be given more power" is the biggest misconception in LoL's history. Because firstly, balance is a measure of power, and execution difficulty has no parts in it. Secondly, easy to play does not mean effective and more buttons to press does not mean the champ is garbage when not used in max potential.

In the current stage of LoL, while Thresh is no specialist he is still too powerful of a generalist and as such he is bullying everything with the exceptions of some very rare cases but that is by no means an indication saying that he is bad or not great.

Let me expand on what should be rewarded with more power and otherwise.

The more conditional something is, then they should get more power. But they should not use the extra power to remove its disadvantages in self compensation manner.

Everything else, equal power.

SwapShadowsOct 25, 20151 votes

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Everyone is except for someone like Taric, and that's pretty much his only usefulness most of the time.

Any champ is trash when not used correctly. Unless we're talking about batshiet insane cases like Morde where anything just goes.

This is what people always use when they're defending an overloaded champion, 100% of the time, and there is a reason for that.

Because there is no downside to a loaded piece of nonsense, so they instead turn around and say that their advantage is the disadvantage because their kit is bigger and supposedly harder to play.

While the reality is not such case because you do NOT need to master it to be useful or strong, hence a bigger kit brings nothing but pluses.

The "my champ is harder to play so they should be given more power" is the biggest misconception in LoL's history. Because firstly, balance is a measure of power, and execution difficulty has no parts in it. Secondly, easy to play does not mean effective and more buttons to press does not mean the champ is garbage when not used in max potential.

In the current stage of LoL, while Thresh is no specialist he is still too powerful of a generalist and as such he is bullying everything with the exceptions of some very rare cases but that is by no means an indication saying that he is bad or not great.

Let me expand on what should be rewarded with more power and otherwise.

The more conditional something is, then they should get more power. But they should not use the extra power to remove its disadvantages in self compensation manner.

Everything else, equal power. having more options that require you to use more brain power is in fact a disadvantage when compared to champions who can do the same thing but with less brain power needed.

This is the reason why someone like alistar takes significantly less time to master than thresh does.

SEKAIOct 25, 20151 votes

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having more options that require you to use more brain power is in fact a disadvantage when compared to champions who can do the same thing but with less brain power needed.

This is the reason why someone like alistar takes significantly less time to master than thresh does.

Time to master has no relationship with a champ's position on the balance ladder.

The mastered Thresh is massively more powerful than Ali, and that is just bad design in general.

having more options that require you to use more brain power is in fact a disadvantage

It's like saying having more weapons up in your jacket is a downside.

Not to mention, you do in fact not Need the extra options. You can play Thresh like any "low skill champs" and still do well, and that's the heart of this entire problem.