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Having Some Really Bad Games Recently...

Stephenizgod··24 votes·1,264 views

...that are over by 5 minutes... I'm just doing my business bot lane as a Support when i notice at 5-6 minutes enemy Top/Mid/Jg gets a kill so I hit Tab and find out that person is 3/0... Guess i wasn't paying attention? Probably because by 5 minutes i don't expect anyone to be 3 and 0 already. Well its ok play saf... well they just got a triple... Ok up to bot lane to carry! Nope now they are 8/0 and is in our lane. Oh! He just 1 shot the ADC under turret...

Like this happens every freaking game... Also what is up with all the stupid team comps? No tanks, all adc's, no AP, no CC, etc. These team comps aren't working! WE NEED A BALANCED TEAM! LOOK AT THEIR TEAM, LOOK AT THE CHAMPS THEY ARE PLAYING, IS THAT REALLY WHO YOU WANT TO PLAY AGAINST THAT?

I'm not saying im perfect and none of it is my fault, I fed Poppy as Voli and as Karma Supp i was 100% useless at all stages of the game, but when Gragas is 10/0 before 8 minutes Im not sure what can be done...

33 Comments

Sythriel Draken13 votes

The issue is that the towers are no longer doing their job. i read a red report saying that they are looking into the towers, but something needs to be done. Champions are snowballing way too easily now a days, and hell, people are soloing nexus turrets at about the 20 minute mark these days. i have even witnessed a Top Taric solo a nexus tower at the 25 minute mark.. The usual suspects are yi, udyr, and xin by themselves without minions.

When tanks/supports are soloing nexus towers 25 minutes into the game.. towers need to be buffed.

Stephenizgod3 votes

That is an issue for sure because when you are behind it feels impossible to ever come back since you will lose more than just 1 turret after a bad teamfight.

But im talking about my teammates feeding. Seriously the game is over by 10 minutes because we are 16 kills behind already... It doesn't help that there are far more than 6 incredibly unbalanced champions right now that need to be banned or picked and it always seems like my team never picks them. Idk what to do as a Support main, i setup the plays, i disengage, i peel... It doesn't matter they are hellbent on losing as badly as possible.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

There's also an issue with their targeting seeming to favor minions even when champions are like... attacking you.

Iqqi1 votes

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The issue is that the towers are no longer doing their job. i read a red report saying that they are looking into the towers, but something needs to be done. Champions are snowballing way too easily now a days, and hell, people are soloing nexus turrets at about the 20 minute mark these days. i have even witnessed a Top Taric solo a nexus tower at the 25 minute mark.. The usual suspects are yi, udyr, and xin by themselves without minions.

When tanks/supports are soloing nexus towers 25 minutes into the game.. towers need to be buffed.

This 90%

Riots current game balancers / leadership with the exception of @Gypsylord (Best champion Designer in the history of Riot) are complete idiots at every level.

See Riot doesnt test changes and those they do are only tested by the .01% of players who are on the PBE and their skills clearly do not represent their player base. Riot's balance model is "well lets change X and Z and then lets see what happens" I mean absolutely Hilarious! Multi billion dollar company and they have a worse process than my son had for taking a dump.

Towers deal so little damage. They are so pointless, can be tanked by so many champions with just a slight armor or health increase. Turret damage needs to be increased and turret damage needs to scale with the game. Kind of like what they did for dragon only real this time.

Vistha Kai1 votes

PBE is there only to find utterly gamebreaking bugs that prevent people from logging into the game to spend dolars.

They openly stated that PBE is not there for balance changes.

Agent Ape11 votes

I agree with your complaint thread. There are too many champions that win from champ select. In my opinion player skill doesn't win games anymore. I can kill Ezreal twice in lane but it doesn't matter because its ezreal. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

Stephenizgod5 votes

Yea, I went against a team that was MissFortune Thresh Gragas Udyr TahmKench ... I told them Ban Tahm and Ban Udyr, but no they said they wouldn't be problems...

8/0/6, 1/4/10, 16/1/2, 4/1/5, 5/3/7... Surprisingly Gragas was the issue he got a triple early on and then steamrolled our team... Still Tahm and Udyr were huge problems for us. Their entire team is made up of extremely strong, some even considered OP, champions and I told my team to ban 2 of them because i knew we would lose at champ select.

Stephenizgod9 votes

Yup complaint thread, feel free to downvote, I just needed to say something because its getting ridiculous how dumb people are playing right now.

Supreme Senpai694 votes

Ive had a 0/10 person twice in a row. I was support and he was top so there really wasn't much I could do. Obviously we FF'd at 20... which means he died once every 2 minutes. Except that he didn't die till at least when minions spawned at 1:30 and death timers/walking back to lane is at least another 30 seconds per death. It was almost like he'd walk into lane, chase the Riven and die, come back and do the same thing just to die. I know people say "Focus on yourself and learn to carry" but that's the dumbest advice because if someone feeds an enemy you're fucked. Skill can only do so much against gold.

Stephenizgod2 votes

Specially Riven of all champions, THE snowball champ... Fiora Jax MasterYi Riven XinZhao once these champs get a few kills the game is over, not because i don't know how to deal with them but because my team obviously doesn't... They already fed them, they are just going to keep feeding them. This has been 90% true in all my games, when someone like them gets fed the game is over.

Fat Bastard GOD3 votes

6/1 Varus in 7 minutes :)

Stephenizgod3 votes

Enemy ADC getting fed is the worst... Played a game where the enemy Tristana was AFK until about 4 minutes, walks into lane at level 1 right when we are doing dragon (im top). My team sees an easy kill and dives her, she walks away with a Quad... They stopped doing dragon (mostly because it was kicking their asses). Needless to say she was an unstoppable monster until we surrendered...

Lauchmelder2 votes

I had a Jax yesterday that killed our Yi @2:30 near red, then got a kill mid, went top and got a kill and finally got 1 kill on me as Support (at least I saved my ADC) He was sated at 13 minutes. Our Yi bought Devourer and was sated at Minute 28.

League of Snowballing

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yea I'm actually surprised Riot is happy with the state of the game, but my guess is that this is how they want the game to be played. Unfortunately I, and most people, hate it and wish it would go back to a time where smart play allowed you to come back and one or two teammates feeding wasn't an automatic death sentence.

Lauchmelder1 votes

I don't even think that the champions are in an overpowered state. It's items like Rageblade that need a rework.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Rageblade is definitely too strong but there are champions that don't use it that are somewhat out of control. Blue Build Ezreal, Udyr, Poppy, etc. Champions that are overly tuned or that are abusing certain items/builds (seriously how many items is Ezreal going to abuse to the point of trashing the item just to stop him, before they rework him?)

Lauchmelder1 votes

I don't know, Blue Ez is annoying and a kiting god, but I wouldn't classify him as OP. And Poppy kinda needs her stun against the wall to deal insane damage (she is on the stronger side though). Udyr is an abomination xP

Stephenizgod1 votes

The reason Blue Ez is a problem is because it removes one of his main issues and that is peel. He has no peel but IBG gives him a ton of peel and chase potential. Poppy does far too much damage for how tanky she is, either lower her burst (she is a Juggernaut but she isn't paying for her damage like the other Juggernauts) or lower her Tankiness (reduce the duration of her Passives shield).

Udyr is an absolute abomination lol. CC, Tank, Sustain, Damage, and Mobility. He is crazy. He is either too strong or he is too weak, his kit does not allow him to be balanced.

Maple Crusader2 votes

Squishy team comps make me sick.

Stephenizgod1 votes

All ADC comps make me sick... No front line, no peel, no CC... Its terrible, plus Rammus...

GlockHammer2 votes

I fully agree. The pain is real this season. :,(

Stephenizgod1 votes

Losing because my teammates are terrible is not new but losing as early as 5 minutes is. I can't believe i miss those 45 minute long feed fest, but at least during those we had chances at coming back. This season once you are behind the odds are so stacked against you it would take a monumental amount of pro-level play to come back, not even win, just to stop from losing at 20...

BadmoonBC2 votes

Last night I was in a game with lux and my team was down 9-1. I carried through finished 14/0/9 and we won with the enemy surrendering. Granted most Times We're down 9-1 we are losing the game. It takes someone playing out of their mind to change that. That's what I don't like. You shouldn't have to carry every single game

Stephenizgod1 votes

That's how i felt, I use to main Top and would end up carrying games as Garen (pre-juggernaut) or Malph, but a lot of the times I just couldn't carry. I don't play the champions that can carry games, i don't like their playstyle and i don't really like them. So now i main Support because i can help the ADC get fed, but that is not working so well. All my ADC's either are too afraid to move from behind minions and we get pushed than our lane roams or they are stupid and basically act like Im not there...

Only Play Darius1 votes

This is why you need to pick champs that can snowball easily. In ranked you have to assume that some idiot is going to feed kills, the only way you can counteract that is by getting fed yourself so you can stand a chance

Stephenizgod1 votes

My issue is I main Supports, when I am not Support I play only Tanks. I am a Supportive type of guy, i love the playstyle of helping others or blocking for others. This playstyle is punished pretty hard this season because its heavily dependent on your teammates not being stupid.

Only Play Darius1 votes

See, the tough truth is that it is extremely hard to carry a game as support (especially in low elo). However, you can always try playing "supports" like Zyra Lux Velkoz Brand who can become the carry if their ADC is shit. Also Soraka is an idiot-proof support as even the worst ADC's should be able to survive a little longer when spam-healed.

But honestly the best way to climb is to get a decent skill level with the soloQ dream champions Darius Garen Jax Nasus Udyr XinZhao MonkeyKing Yasuo MasterYi etc. as they can become monsters and compensate for multiple bad teammates. If you want to climb you will have to step out of your comfort zone and learn more champions

Stephenizgod1 votes

I actually use to main Garen and Wukong, I played a lot of Darius, Jax, and Xin too. I play a lot of champions actually I just never get any lane other than Support. When I am Support, Top or Mid feeds and when I am Top or Mid, Bot lane feeds. Obviously I lose lane too, it happens but it seems that every game whatever lane i am not in is feeding badly. I suppose i should just main someone like Jax or Xin or Yasuo, but I hate that this game is being pushed away from my playstyle so that it favors those types of champions.

Only Play Darius1 votes

You can't just monitor your own play, you have to closely watch your lane opponent and actively punish every mistake they make. It's pretty easy to get fed in Bronze/Silver on the right champs as your opponents make awful mistakes especially in lane, but are used to not getting punished for it therefore never learn, so if you know what to look for you can get fed almost every game.

You can't be losing lane if you want to climb, you need to have won your lane 9/10 games. I see your average KD is 1/6 and yes you're a support main, but you are simply dying far too much in games, especially as a Janna main, so you need to work on that.

Stephenizgod1 votes

Yea i agree i die far too much as Janna and i hate it, but in my defense I am not always getting caught out or making bad plays. My Ezreal ADC warps into the middle of their minions and starts going berserk throwing abilities all around and missing. Obviously the enemy attacks him and I start doing my best to peel but he is refusing to escape. So I start to draw aggro and body block, its just how I play Support, i prioritize carries. I die. I decide Ezreal is not worth protecting because he sucks, so I go mid to snowball them, same thing happens. So I try top, nope.

This is what keeps happening, I am treated as if I am invisible or non-existent. No one goes in on my engages, no one tries to run when I disengage, no one tries to focus the people I have CC'd, etc. It turns out that because of my teams stupid plays I need to sacrifice myself so we don't lose everything right then and there.

I'm not trying to make excuses, I die far too much even if I am trying my best to protect my team. Still right now I am having a lot of trouble with my Teammates cooperating with me. Its like they don't know how to play their roles and expect me to be able to fix all their problems.

Quantum Lotus1 votes

The champion you are talking about sounds an awful lot like an experienced LeeSin x_x

Stephenizgod1 votes

Actually haven't fought any Lee Sins recently, mostly speaking about Xin Zhao. Every time he ganks they get a kill and he can gank very early and often. After awhile he becomes immortal and 2 shots anyone he jumps on, there is no peeling against him either he will get his mark eventually.

Vistha Kai1 votes

This is how you could sum up my every lost game this season.

I'm a laner, being mid most of the time and sometimes top or adc.

It usually goes like this: Unless the enemy jungler decides to lane 2v1 aganist me, I'm going even or winning every time. Before 10 minute mark I'm usually 2-3 kills ahead of the other guy, with one death tops. Then I look at bot, 0/5. Then top, 0/2. Then one of them decides they had their share of fun and comes to my lane. Because they are so fed I'm being repeatedly dived until I'm 3/5 at which point even I can't do jack.

I don't even now what's to blame for this.

For once I played Fiora aganist Poppy. She hit level fucking 3 and proceeded to dive me every single time she came back to lane, killing me at full health. I'm not exaggerating, it really happened. By the time she was level 8, I was level 4, couldn't get even into exp range without dying, let alone farming.

Towers are nothing but scarecrows.

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