Scarizard on Twitter: "It's intended for some junglers to have to back after 2 camps."

Kingsgrave·Nov 21, 2014·2 votes·949 views

https://twitter.com/RiotScarizard/status/535676890275524609

I don't think Riot realizes that any champion that has to do that just won't be played as a jungler because of how much of a setback that is.

Why even play when they all struggle to do even 1 camp by themselves safely and effectively? You will just see nothing but because they can clear efficiently, safely and are barely affected by the new jungle.

I understand its supposed to be hard, but I don't see the upside to the 5 listed above besides maybe Rammus for having to go back constantly in the early game when the others I listed can gank, farm and use the items better than all of them while also being safer and better at dealing with the new jungle in general.

16 Comments

Rustling BushNov 21, 20142 votes

i can stay in jungle after i get ranger trailblazer on wukong, or any low farm champion, trailblazer op.

Long Dong WukongNov 21, 20141 votes

It's just the only one actually designed for this jungle. The other ones don't fit. The only thing you can really do is take a Skirmisher's on Warwick or the direct damage one if you were Zed jungling.

Otherwise buy a Ranger's

LegendaryLemurNov 21, 20141 votes

lol

LegendaryLemurNov 21, 20141 votes

duo top inc

7ha7guy777Nov 21, 20141 votes

double relic shield top?

Long Dong WukongNov 21, 20141 votes

That was almost a thing. It was fucking fun too.

Riot fucked it up. Meta enforcing shits.

7ha7guy777Nov 21, 20141 votes

i feel like HP scaling champions like Voli and Braum could pull it off (provided the opponent isn't ranged)

Paul 024Nov 21, 20141 votes

Tried it bot once, and it works great for sustain...except for the cooldown. You blow through those three little orbs very fast if you're the adc, and they take forever to come back.

AtheosisXNov 21, 20141 votes

I'm pretty sure some of the champs you listed as being unaffected have to back after a few camps as well.

KingsgraveNov 21, 20141 votes

Maybe Kha, but Pantheon, Udyr, Lee, Xin, WW and Fidds don't. They are sustain junglers.

KidSpectreNov 21, 20141 votes

Double top until 3 or 4, then back to the jungle, I reckon. What I've been doing is, every time my jungler comes down for a gank and I'm Soraka, I heal them up on their way out.

KingsgraveNov 21, 20141 votes

I don't want to lose exp to my jungler when Im top though, that will set me back greatly.

Paul 024Nov 21, 20141 votes

That could be minimized by spending part time top, part time mid.

KidSpectreNov 21, 20141 votes

I don't want to lose exp to my jungler when Im top though, that will set me back greatly.

It's gonna set your entire team back when the jungler gets executed at Razorbeaks.

Long Dong WukongNov 21, 20141 votes

Kha'Zix doesn't clear all that efficiently, by the way. His sustain is almost negligible early on in this jungle. I expect he has a Rockbros/Gromp, Buff, Camp. Camp, back(buy), Buff, Camp clear too.

Having to back after Wolves/Raptors isn't all that bad on Wukong, at least. You go back and buy a Ranger's and pots so when you get back into the jungle you clear faster and you have sustain. If you think they're going to try to invade when you have to back, you can just start top and go Rockbros/Gromp, Buff, Camp, back, straight to buff. You end up at the buff at about the same time as you would have because you're skipping a camp and you still have money to buy a Ranger's and a pot or two with only two camps.

The rest of those jungler's I'm not sure about, but Wukong's Decoy gives him a little bit of fake sustain, and when combined with the purple smite you can clear a camp without getting hit by chaining the smite stun and your decoy.

But yes, it's a bitch and it's harder to solidify control of a game. Dragon never feels like it's a good idea now unless you straight up kill 3 of them. Baron is just about pointless until 45 minutes. It's kinda meh, but I figured out how to be effective after a couple matches.

Kowe The EwokNov 21, 20141 votes

Lee Sin is still God of the jungle, so Riot doesn't bother. Who needs Hecarim, it's much more fun if you have a Lee Sin in each match.. Yay... /sarcasm