if i land a max range skillshot such as a 
spear.
i feel that should do more damage than someone who used a melee ability or a point and click ability.
yet riot seems to think 
should be able to out damage a max range spear when when I'm NOT isolated.
Slythion6 votesa counterargument to that would be
"If I manage to get close to an enemy and put myself in danger for this 0 range ability, I feel like it should do more damage than a random nidalee spear who has the safety of insane range and can be spammed at 0 risk"
You tell me if either argument would be healthy to follow as an absolute rule
Frosted Tips2 votesThank you that was my point exactly. In a complete vacuum nothing about range or how it effects future parts of the fight then OP's statement is correct, but context is needed so it is wrong.
SwiftKitten881 votesa counterargument to that would be
"If I manage to get close to an enemy and put myself in danger for this 0 range ability, I feel like it should do more damage than a randomly nidalee spear who has the safety of insane range and can be spammed at 0 risk"
You tell me if either argument would be healthy to follow as an absolute rule
you do realize that nid has to pounce in as a squishy target to use takedown which does WAY more damage than her spear.
dont try to talk to me about "putting your self in danger" the whole reason nid was reworked was so she was FORCED to "put herself in danger"
the fact of the matter is i still need to land a max range spear for even my takedown to deal decent damage
AnAggravatedPimp1 votesyou do realize that nid has to pounce in as a squishy target to use takedown which does WAY more damage than her spear.
dont try to talk to me about "putting your self in danger" the whole reason nid was reworked was so she was FORCED to "put herself in danger"
the fact of the matter is i still need to land a max range spear for even my takedown to deal decent damage
Before Nid was throwing nuke tipped spears and one shotting people so Riot reworked her a bit and shifted her powet into cougar form to balance her Spears loss of damage. They did most , see 99%, of her damage to the point that she was just chucking em from the fog of war and casually killing enemies that were at 60% or less hp.
On that note, why can Ezreal/Varus/Ashe just throw skill shots out at me while I'm forced to walk towards them to use my abilities? I may hav a dash but all three of those champs hav slows, stuns or blinks that make landing skillshots easier. Why does Riot punish my melee champ by needing to be in melee range to function
SwiftKitten881 votesBefore Nid was throwing nuke tipped spears and one shotting people so Riot reworked her a bit and shifted her powet into cougar form to balance her Spears loss of damage. They did most , see 99%, of her damage to the point that she was just chucking em from the fog of war and casually killing enemies that were at 60% or less hp.
On that note, why can Ezreal/Varus/Ashe just throw skill shots out at me while I'm forced to walk towards them to use my abilities? I may hav a dash but all three of those champs hav slows, stuns or blinks that make landing skillshots easier. Why does Riot punish my melee champ by needing to be in melee range to function
yeah and at that point in time she still had a pounce reset to get out after she pounced in...
now she effectively doesn't until lvl 16, by which time she is nearly worthless anyways.
and dont get me wrong i LOVED nids rework.. in fact i want her REVERTED back to her "rework" instead of how she is now (i would keep the invisible traps though that was cool)
but the fact her pounce reset is only lowered from 6 seconds to 3.5 seconds is absolutely laughable
that's NOT a reset.
Slythion3 votesalright first off, there's absolutely no reason to be so aggro...I never insulted you nor was I even rude. If you can't handle different opinions or viewpoints, why are you on the internet. Let's take it down a notch.
2nd of all, you've already answered you own question in this reply. The whole point that her Q (aka a long-range spell) doesn't nuke people like Kha's is because when it could, the safety from it's range was so oppressive and frontloaded of an ability that the rest of her kit didn't matter. The only time you should see a champion have an incredibly long range nuke spell like old Nidalee's is if the rest of their kit supports that single ability, aka: Zoe (who is still widely viewed to be a terrible champion design, but that's for a different post)
If you analyze that relationship, you'll see that Nid's kit is the reverse in which her Q supports/enhances the rest of her kit or combo. Aka, her combo is reliant on it.
You can't compare two abilities like Kha and Nid Q's in a vacuum and then present context afterwards in an attempt to justify your pre-determined beliefs. That is called bias and it's not a fair or reasonable way to discuss anything, if you continuously change the context and terms of the discussion.
see, your last line:
the fact of the matter is i still need to land a max range spear for even my takedown to deal decent damage
Are we using the two abilities as examples to analyze the relationship between ranged skillshots vs. melee point-and-clicks, or are we now in a pissing match where you're trying to prove your main is a better champion that's been treated less fairly than a champion your salty about? Pick one.
If you have a problem with Nidalee's kit balance or position in this meta, or likewise with Kha, make a post about it. Don't bait people into a discussion about ranged vs melee abilities and then get mad at them for favoring a melee due to range's inherent safety.
Nb4 "He's biased and likes Kha" Immobile mages such as Anivia, Xerath, Syndra, etc are my prefered class of champions and I hate Kha just as much as the next adc/mage player.
Tahminatrix 2 votesKhazix is a bad example since he requires enemy champions to be isolated, also his Q auto burst is his main source of damage.....and hes a squishy melee.
haaaaaaalp2 votesMelee abilities should do more than ranged ones. Skillshots in general are already stronger and outrange point and click abilities
Frosted Tips1 votesWell I mean if you disregard everything and just look at the occurance without and context yes, but Nid spear is ranged so it is safe to use, and it enhances all of her other abilities which is super important so you know I would say between those abilities what they do is pretty fair.
Crispy0Snake1 votesMalz E, Fiddle E, Soraka E (it's as good as point and click), Nami W... yes, get those abilities in the dumpster dude.
That's my perspective as a support...
Doseqis1 votesKhazix Q doesn't outdamage nidalee spear at rank 1 nid spear is gonna have a 190 base on Kha Q and 240 at max rank at rank 1 the 10% more bonus AD is gonna have to be 1900 to outdamage nid spear and at rank 5 is gonna have to be 2400 at max rank not to mention AP champions have lower ratios because you get more AP than you would AD in a game.
Even isolated He has to have approximatly 143 bonus ad at rank 1 (if my math is correct) and 69 at rank 5 to outdamage the nid spear.
Keep in mind that the spear is ranged and has much less risk involved than going melee range and that the spear has an boosted execute tied to it and longer jump range on W.
ankoanko191 votesWhat a bad analogy. If I take example from my main, Irelia then it would be something like ''Why does Irelias AOE skillshot with huge range only stun for 0.7s compared to the POINT & CLICK melee range stun that lasted 2s? Doesnt make any sense!1'' Do you see how stupid your statement is? Nevermind how a Nid spear at medium-max range still deals more dmg in the early and midgame than a khazix Q. It's only later on where Kha is up to par.
D357R0Y3R1 votes1550 range vs 300 range
hahahahaha lmao