Maybe for the first time,gulps intensely Vayne should get small buffs

Lady Hammerlock·Apr 9, 2016·2 votes·460 views

The only reason to play Vayne in this day and age is to -kill tanks -murder bruisers -hard carry -hyper mobile but she falls off with shoddy early especially with her more prominent lane bullies in the meta she only brings a long CD disengage/stun spell,this is better then nothing though a lot of adcs don't even have utility to begin with

My idea of a buff is Q mana cost 30>25,its her bread and butter spell really but generally early,mid,late game she tends to spam it at every point of the game all in all this would help a bit

I don't have any ideas of the specific numbers but reduce her base AD slightly(to emphasise weak early) But increase her AD per level which should turn into a flat out buff(to emphasise strong late game)

14 Comments

disregardableApr 9, 20162 votes

Nope, I don't think she needs it. Late game hypercarry too strong.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

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Nope, I don't think she needs it. Late game hypercarry too strong.

a late game hyper carry,wowzers i could say the same about other adcs but they also bring 10 times more utility then Vayne,she is pure single target dmg and wtf are you talking about?she is weak right now,lane bullies present,utility adcs also present

Kalista is also Hyperscaling,Hypermobile,Tank shredding machine the only difference?she has meaningful utility but i don't see anyone else complaining about her

SeargentAnusApr 9, 20161 votes

She could probably use some buffs since she isn't doing that well in a meta in which she should be in the top 3 of ADCs. Items like item 3153 could also use some love to help her out.

SSJTribeApr 10, 20161 votes

Like SeargentAnus said, if anything should get buffed it's item 3153 not Vayne.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

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Like SeargentAnus said, if anything should get buffed it's not Vayne.

except BORK isn't mandatory vayne item anymore I find success with item 3046 item 3087 item 3031 item 3072 item 3139 item 3006

But if BORK were to be used i normally use it against lane bullies for the sustain anyways if it were to be buffed shouldn't be in the damage or lifesteal,likely it should be the the gold cost that should be reduced

But you don't see the bigger issue with buffing BORK by buffing BORK not only would it help vayne but champions like Kalista MasterYi Ezreal KogMaw Kindred

and if you haven't noticed a lot of the champions i mentioned don't need buffs

SSJTribeApr 10, 20161 votes

True, but even then, none of those champions are buying the item at all right now even though they should all want to.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

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True, but even then, none of those champions are buying the item at all right now even though they should all want to.

....are you sure..... Kalista builds it Blue Ezreal builds it KogMaw builds it the only exceptions are YI and Kindred because they are junglers and the item is quite expensive unless fed if your a jungler

SSJTribeApr 10, 20161 votes

Just checked the stats, and you're right. Maybe just the games I've been playing don't go that long. Kalista builds it first, but Ez and Kog build it like 4th apparently. For an item that used to be so core on these champs, it sure fell off a cliff though.

Billy VoHagenApr 10, 20161 votes

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The only reason to play Vayne in this day and age is to -kill tanks -murder bruisers -hard carry -hyper mobile

Why are we buffing vayne?

Actually, they can buff vayne if they buff tristana.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Billy VoHagen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V0Plovnn,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-04-10T00:20:34.553+0000)

Why are we buffing vayne?

Actually, they can buff vayne is they buff tristana.

Tristana kind of fits the bill for buffs to,some reason those hyper carries seem to be the weakest right now idk why tristana is weak though...

Spicy RiceApr 10, 20161 votes

Because she ramps up extremely slowly, and unlike vayne, she doesn't have any%hp or true damage to help her through mid game

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

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Because she ramps up extremely slowly, and unlike vayne, she doesn't have any%hp or true damage to help her through mid game

watched some challenger vids on trist most notably that i saw between each and every single list of pros/cons

Is she has a terrible mid game due to lack of bases Ramps up slowly due to BEING EXTREMELY ITEM DEPENDANT and requires large amounts of farms or getting fed

Hinagiku33Apr 10, 20161 votes

Vayne's had buffs before...

She actually used to be really bad and was only viable top lane because she sucked so hard bot lane. Riot buffed her Attack Speed per Level (along with Ashe and Tristana) to make her more of a hyper carry.

Also she's fine right now.

Lady HammerlockApr 10, 20161 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fiora All Night,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=V0Plovnn,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-04-10T01:04:53.241+0000)

Vayne's had buffs before...

She actually used to be really bad and was only viable top lane because she sucked so hard bot lane. Riot buffed her Attack Speed per Level (along with Ashe and Tristana) to make her more of a hyper carry.

Also she's fine right now.

what i meant to say was for the first time in awhile but i can't edit titles sigh*