Why do I have to vs Diamond to get out of Plat 5?

FourVsFive··3 votes·274 views

Ranked seems so pointless when it is setting you up vs people a whole league ahead of you, just so u can try to win a promo to go up 1 rank. If I am good enough to vs vs Diamond in Plat 5 can I just get auto promoted cause this seems like a system made for you to fail and forever stay in the same league.

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FioraWillCarry1 votes

The system actually matches based on MMR, not tier and division. Technically, it's possible for someone in Diamond to have Bronze MMR, or vice versa. The match maker only sees MMR. As far as its concerned, nothing like Diamond or Platinum exists. That's just for humans to judge skill. The LP system is used to match MMR to tiers and divisions but it lags, meaning your MMR can shoot up to Diamond but it takes a while for the LP system to put you in Diamond. You can be Platinum with a Diamond MMR and there can be Diamonds with Platinum MMR.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Not true, thats way too exaggerated.. its possible for sm1 in p5 to have d5 mmr, and visa versa, but if the d5 has p5 mmr, he's about to get his ass demoted with another loss. But to say someone in bronze can have dia mmr and visa versa is just way off.

FioraWillCarry1 votes

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Not true, thats way too exaggerated.. its possible for sm1 in p5 to have d5 mmr, and visa versa, but if the d5 has p5 mmr, he's about to get his ass demoted with another loss. But to say someone in bronze can have dia mmr and visa versa is just way off.

I said technically. I was using hyperbole to better explain the relationship between tiers/divisions and MMR.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Well TECHNICALLY you are wrong. lol

FourVsFive1 votes

That is kind of a broken system then, the amount of skill it takes to get to diamond is insane, and only like 1% of people are diamond or lower.
Just cause some pros have a bad game they get matched with plats to make it so they stay in diamond.... Makes no sense at all. If there mmr is that of a bronze then the system should put them in bronze.

GenghisEmo1 votes

Might be the weird math in LoL's MMR system. It actually can be against you at times as it is like a bunch of "hills" and depending on where you land it can be an uphill battle, or an easier downhill coast into either tilt city or freelo-ville. At least that is to the best of my knowledge.

Math ins't my strong suit if it is theoretical math, if i can apply this shit to non-theoretical physics i'll better understand it. So far, i think this is how MMR works, in "simple" terms. There are factors other than the math and the queue, but when it come to the queue at least it's the math. Might be placing you in with Diamonds b/c DQ busted, low number of high tier players, and/or player on tilt or loss streak and therefore places diamonds with or against plats.

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