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Is that even a skill anymore ? All of that cause Wukong gutted Yasuo in Fnatic vs Misfits match

ValiantKiller··23 votes·6,096 views

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Moving from 3 skills champion to 2 skills and extend AA.

Yet a champion that is so cancer to deal with got that damage and CDR on his Q so the game give him extra 100% damage AD ratio on his R. http://i64.tinypic.com/2aiiomr.png

And that why cause MonkeyKing is one of the few champions that able to deal with Yasuo in lane and he was able to shutdown him in that pro match, right? Balance team logic goes like that, How our fabulous toxic cancer Yasuo champion that is hated by everyone get gutted in lane and able to be dived by MonkeyKing while able to tank some tower shots and kill him. No one should be able to do that aside from our toxic champion Yasuo ,he should be the only semi tanky champion under tower with abused amount of damage to slice squishy down in one combo.

Side note : No one was talking about wukong since his last nerf and i didn't see him in game anymore except like 1 out 6 match it just cause of that pro match and i promise you that.

27 Comments

Tegash18 votes

Yasuo doesn't "dive," lol. His training wheels ult automatically places him outside of turret range.

ValiantKiller5 votes

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Yasuo doesn't "dive," lol. His training wheels ult automatically places him outside of turret range.

You get what i mean here anyway.

Tegash1 votes

Yes, and I'm aware my sarcasm isn't helping lol.

This is blatant favouritism on Riot's part. They can't throw Darius in the trash because he's also popular, and he only just got good again after 2 years of being sub-par. So now that an older champ like Wukong publicly styles on Riot's poster boy? Can't have that, no no.

They're very similar champions when it comes to archetypes tbh. Autoattack Q, Utility W, Targeted Dash on E, Dive-Enhancing R.

Tbh Wukong needs a rework to get into a healthy state, but in the interim they do NOT need to nerf his earlygame this much. Not when it's the state of items that are making him a terror on the Rift.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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Yes, and I'm aware my sarcasm isn't helping lol.

This is blatant favouritism on Riot's part. They can't throw Darius in the trash because he's also popular, and he only just got good again after 2 years of being sub-par. So now that an older champ like Wukong publicly styles on Riot's poster boy? Can't have that, no no.

They're very similar champions when it comes to archetypes tbh. Autoattack Q, Utility W, Targeted Dash on E, Dive-Enhancing R.

Tbh Wukong needs a rework to get into a healthy state, but in the interim they do NOT need to nerf his earlygame this much. Not when it's the state of items that are making him a terror on the Rift.

Does it matter older or not ? I main wukong and urgot since his rework, and look at urgot riot give no damn crap about him anymore and he leave in gutted status of been a strong duelist yet useless in team fights cause all of his class able to get free shield and tenacity from item 3053 yet he can't

Void Kaiju1 votes

But he has the coolest ult execute in the game and that will mean he is always viable in our hearts.

ValiantKiller1 votes

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But he has the coolest ult execute in the game and that will mean he is always viable in our hearts.

Hated in our hearts* xD

Norglics1 votes

cause the player is that skillfull who plays him :D

ValiantKiller2 votes

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cause the player is that skillfull who plays him :D

They will be more skillful after that buff, where they follow any knock up and instance death the squishy.

SugeMinPikk1 votes

At max rank with 5 items at level 18, it's about a 230 damage buff

With base armor at level 15, it's more like a 115 damage buff

Y'all overreacting so much

Tegash1 votes

Uhhh, no. What is your math here?

With a build of item 3031 item 3072 item 3026 item 3156 item 2140 yields a total of 70+80+45+50+30=275 AD. That gives his ult an additional 687.5 damage with 50% bonus armor pen. A further 20% of his damage is true damage because of Conqueror, which gives him a further 35 AD at level 18. Which gives him 310 bonus AD, giving his ult a grand total of 775 damage. With 50% bonus armor pen and 20% true damage.

It's a buff of 300 damage, and Yasuo ignores 50% of any armor by items, and a further 20% of armor globally.

In addition to this, this incentivizes players to go Tank Yasuo, which will deal the same amount of damage that Yasuo does NOW, with full damage, on top of the added bonus that he WILL NEVER DIE.

And replacing boots with another AD item, which I left out for the sake of argument, will push that damage cap even HIGHER.

item 3074 ? item 3053 ? Heaven FORBID he build a item 3036 and deal 100% of his ult as true damage to anybody fool enough to build tank, including the actual fucking tank against him on the enemy team.

They buffed him this dramatically when he has 50% bonus armor pen, can enter the game with 20% true damage, and build an item that gives him 35% total armor pen. Unbelievable.

SugeMinPikk1 votes

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Uhhh, no. What is your math here?

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/general-discussion/QQsRBGhj-yasuo-buff-reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Yasuo ignores 50% of any armor by items

I said base armor buddy

And the buff has been scrapped already. Mods should just delete all these stupid ass QQ threads

Tegash1 votes

Way to miss the point lol. He ignores 50% of bonus armor by himself and effectively ignores 65% of total armor with Conq, IE and Dominik's. Even if the damage is only increased by a "low" amount, the state of items makes that increase far, FAR more valuable than you are pretending it is.

SugeMinPikk1 votes

230 is before mitigation and still small

Cavesloth1 votes

Training wheels lols. Well burned sir.

AHeroNamedHawke8 votes

Yas doesn't kill people in 1 autoattack from stealth. The hell are you smoking with "it's not even an ability!!!1!" when it scales up to a 140% AD reset that shreds 30% armor?

Yas doesn't need the buff, but it will both do basically nothing and Wukong needed the nerf to rightclicking anyway. It's an extra 80-240 damage on a champion that builds 0 armor pen, relying on the ult's buff afterwards.

ValiantKiller2 votes

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Yas doesn't kill people in 1 autoattack from stealth. The hell are you smoking with "it's not even an ability!!!1!" when it scales up to a 140% AD reset that shreds 30% armor?

Yas doesn't need the buff, but it will both do basically nothing and Wukong needed the nerf to rightclicking anyway. It's an extra 80-240 damage on a champion that builds 0 armor pen, relying on the ult's buff afterwards.

But yas able to penta kill a whole team, destroy most of ranged champions in lane , have better wave clear, able to be semi tanky with that amount of damage and he is manaless yep that is fair.

and sure 100% extra AD ratio on the his R won't make difference special after it follow a massage knock on 3+ people.

AHeroNamedHawke5 votes

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But yas able to penta kill a whole team, destroy most of ranged champions in lane , have better wave clear, able to be semi tanky with that amount of damage and he is manaless yep that is fair.

and sure 100% extra AD ratio on the his R won't make difference special after it follow a massage knock on 3+ people.

But has no ranged abilities or mobility without allies/minions, gets hard countered by melees ignoring Wind Wall and has lower base stats to compensate his 15 second CD shield that breaks on a 9 damage Tiamat AoE

One of Yasuo's biggest weaknesses is his laning too, and building tanky early sets him extremely far behind. You can even see this in LCS, once a Yas burns his flash they'll start diving him repeatedly since he has no way to defend himself under tower

Now compare this design with multiple flaws to exploit to Wukong: An invisible AD bruiser with a targeted AS boosting gap closer > armor shred > AoE hard CC with insane scaling. You never outplay Wukong in any way, you just position and have better stats than him.

Shablagoo2 votes

The funny thing is people will always be blinded by their hate for yas. Dont get me wrong I dont think yas deserves buffs and I hate playing with yas because they almost always feed and are impossible to gank for unless you have a knock up because they continously push up. But tbh the fact that try and compare the two is ridiculous, wu has next to no counterplay at all.

Norglics5 votes

nothing new , balance team works this way: they have some favourite champs like yas lux lee ... and when those gets beaten in a tournament they instantly nerf the enemy into oblivion , this happened many times already

ValiantKiller2 votes

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nothing new , balance team works this way: they have some favourite champs like yas lux lee ... and when those gets beaten in a tournament they instantly nerf the enemy into oblivion , this happened many times already

It just sucks. Nothing changed it just one game and they panic about their toxic favorite cancer champion. The same way they treated Garen and Darius with love while leaving Nasus and Urgot in trash.

Rexxiee5 votes

You do know wu Q adds his AA damage, and yasuo "extra 100% ratio" is literally his AA damage right?

After the nerfs yasuo q will do 10 more damage at rank 1 than wukong q, but it doesnt shred armor.

What kind of thread is this?

ValiantKiller2 votes

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You do know wu Q adds his AA damage, and yasuo "extra 100% ratio" is literally his AA damage right?

After the nerfs yasuo q will do 10 more damage at rank 1 than wukong q, but it doesnt shred armor.

What kind of thread is this?

Does Q give him knockup too ? Does his Q allowed to crit after he buy 1 or 2 crit items ? Late game which one is the better Q ?

AHeroNamedHawke3 votes

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Does Q give him knockup too ? Does his Q allowed to crit after he buy 1 or 2 crit items ? Late game which one is the better Q ?

Steel Tempest deals 120+180% AD on a crit Crushing Blow will deal 130+140% AD regardless

Wukong stacks nothing but flat AD and armor pen, while Yas spends 3800g on attack speed before anything else, and still needs another 3400g to hit his consistent damage spike. Wukong also has another damage ability, whereas Sweeping Blade does 80 magic damage.

TheGreatNinx3 votes

Well no shit. Two completly different champions that accomplishes different goals and scale different into the game. Wukong was never a late game carry.

Colton1471 votes

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ValiantKiller3 votes

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Akali item 3070

And what is wrong with her ?

Shablagoo1 votes

I really hope this is a wu sympathizing thread, wu is one of the champions in the game with the less amount of counterplay in the game, and a huge db abuser along with quinn. He deserves nerfs.

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