Not saying that Urgot isn't strong but the dude could use a buff. I'm not asking for a 20 mana Q. There's nothing you can possibly buff on his W. His E is very strong. His R could cost less (possibly free) or have a less cool down. But, I'm only asking for a range buff. Something to help him hit from a +75 bit further. Is it going to improve his game, probably not. Will it be nice to have? Uh, yeah!
disregardable4 votesthe only thing keeping urgot out of bot lane is his range. otherwise he has high damage and survivability to beat traditional marksman.
Rew7111 votesSo, did you just describe 
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? I can't decide on which best describes high damage and survivability. You want high survivability? Caitlin has 650 range, and yet all her long range abilities also deal 100%(+) of her AD, and she has a snare trap (that lasts for 1.5 seconds) which gives her enough time to fling backwards sending a E at you, slowing you and giving her the room to keep shooting. Doesn't that sound OP? Well, she's not OP. Want to know why? Because you have to practice as Caitlyn to get good at her. As someone that's played A LOT OF Urgot, I have trouble just getting a kill with the lousy range he has. We now have a new champ that has 2 sustains but does she need a range reduction? She sits nicely at 500.
How about this; Urgot has a passive on every ability except his ultimate. His Q's passive is to target enemies if they are effected by his E. His W gives slows. His E reduces armor. Why not allow his R to give +25/50/75 range? Then, its only in late game he has this buff, and in early to mid, he doesn't have the handy-cap he has.
SaltyKracka1 votesBecause that much range is a goddamn enormous amount of power.
Power that absolutely nobody wants to see on botlane Urgot.
Rew7111 votes > 650
> 525 (Q gives from +75 to +175 range)
> 500 (W gives from +130 to +210 range)
> 543 (passive gives from +7 to +126 range)
Not only this but why are (or why is) everyone so afraid of Urgot? Is it because he can (dun, dun, DUN!) counter Jinx and Vayne? We accepted Mordekaiser bot (sort-of) and are okay with marksman top and in the jungle. Why is it that this one champ is not executable in bot?
Also, you need to make a better excuse than "that's a lot of power" considering he only has a normal range for a "marksman". 500? Oh, that's scary. Not as scary as just having 425? Common, that's a pathetic argument and you know it. 500 range won't kill bot and nor will it over power Urgot who was just given a buff and still sees himself as a usually underplayed champ.
SaltyKracka3 votesNow imagine giving any of those champions 75 extra base range.
And then imagine what this kind of thing would do to, oh say, toplane Urgot.
Rew7111 votesThis is ridiculous. And stupid. I'm done.
Edit:
Sorry, I had to go eat for a couple minutes there. The reason this is ridiculous is that although Urgot does have a sustain, Kog'Maw is similar with his projectile Q that reduces armor and his E that slows enemies. Kog'Maw's real power from his W comes from the ability to deal bonus magic damage equal to the enemies full health. Please do not tell me that because Urgot can shield himself from one strong attack, that he has tons of sustain. Or that because of his R, that he is hard to kill. I have enough trouble activating his R, let alone finding perfect moments to use it. Unless I'm playing against a idiot, I'll never get a perfect chance to ult them into my turret range and kill them off (if they also don't have a shield, or other way to escape).
Stellafreyja2 votesCaitlyn with 725 range would be glorious. The kiting...
Meep Man1 votes[{quoted}](name=Ace of Eden,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UnwthQg3,comment-id=000100000000000000000001,timestamp=2015-09-17T17:41:51.206+0000)
Caitlyn with 725 range would be glorious. The kiting...
You mean Jinx but with 25 less range with AoE with a mana cost?
BeatzBoyFTW2 votes
Urgot?
Urgot??
I'm pretty sure you were the problem, not Urgot. And I'm not even gonna bother the fact that you're Bronze 5 to begin with here.......
Rew7111 voteslol
DrNova3 votesYou must have a pretty unhappy life to try to bash someone for no reason.
BeatzBoyFTW1 votesYou must have a pretty unhappy life to try to bash someone for no reason.
Something tells me you also don't know how to play Urgot as well.
DrNova1 votesI can play urgot pretty well and I do on occasion. Nothing I said was about Urgot.
And Op wasn't complaining about him just said he wished he had more range.
Face it. You're just a stupid dick.
Chuck Charles1 votesurgot is incredibly viable. in fact his kit is borderline cancerous. he isn't played quite as much anymore because the tank meta isn't a thing and you don't see assassins in mid anymore which is what he is a good counter too. he's still playable though for sure. his Q deals tons of damage and is completely unavoidable if you land that E (not that hard to land). he's good. he's not top tier anymore because of the meta shift. but you can still play him and do well.
Sasogwa1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chuck Charles,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UnwthQg3,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-09-17T03:39:05.736+0000)
urgot is incredibly viable. in fact his kit is borderline cancerous. he isn't played quite as much anymore because the tank meta isn't a thing and you don't see assassins in mid anymore which is what he is a good counter too. he's still playable though for sure. his Q deals tons of damage and is completely unavoidable if you land that E (not that hard to land). he's good. he's not top tier anymore because of the meta shift. but you can still play him and do well.
Uhm actually he was huge in the assassin meta (kinda like cho'gath), that is right. But he's kinda bad in the tank meta. And those are two different things. Why? Because he doesn't have as much damage against tanks as a classic crit adc and his low mobility makes him easily caught by the massive CC a tank meta would bring. Anyway, I think what really killed him in competitive was the poke meta (ap kog, varus) he couldn't really do anything against.
About cho, I'd even say Cho'gath is not 'tank meta', really. He's like really good against assassins, but against tanks? He's pretty much only burst, with low mobility. He'll just get kited/CCed all day and can't really melt tanks. Sure he has his ult but that is a long cooldown so he'll use it just once in a fight. Same lines of reasoning for urgot. But I'm really going far from the subject ;P
Chuck Charles1 voteschogath and urgot were very big in tank meta. i mean the cinderhulk era when the entire team would be tanky to some extent. that was the strategy. urgot was naturally tanky cuz of his build path and shield. cho gath even building ap and damage is tanky cuz of passive on ult. etc.
SaltyKracka1 votesNobody wants to see the current Urgot being good in botlane.
And jesus fuck +75 range is a fucking huge buff to ask for.
LadyRenly1 votesUrgots range is a tricky matter. Level 2/3 of his ult is simply fabulous, whereas rank 1 is kinda atrocious. but how do you balance that
APrinnyDood1 votesBut, I'm only asking for a range buff.
There is no such thing as "only a range buff". Range makes and breaks champions harder than other stat. I've seen more champions completely killed by range nerfs than by anything else. 75 range is a ton to just give someone. So, no, I don't think this is a great change. It doesn't fix any of the problems that necessitate him being weak, but it just makes him unbearable for some champions to deal with. Way too much power to casually throw onto someone.
Is it going to improve his game, probably not.
There's no "probably not" about this. It will improve him, and by a huge amount. Seriously, you are majorly underestimating how much range matters.
Lugg1 votesThe win rates on people who play him a lot are absolutely ridiculous. Almost 70% as ADC and 60% as mid. He is way more than viable, people just don't realize it.
Rew7111 votesWere did you find these results? When I looked it up, he barely has 46% win rate on ADC, and a high 45% on mid.
Lugg1 voteshttp://champion.gg/champion/Urgot/ADC
Look at the win rate by games played. The 50-125 range is over 69%. While it's a small group, A win % that high is pretty impressive. Mid has about a 61% win rate with a bigger group.
Urgot is really good if you know how to play him right. You have be a lane bully and get ahead. If you do that, he is very good.
Rew7111 votesIts not that that I'm really going to look at, the real reason no one wants to buff him is that 48% win rate in top.
Adalore1 votesYeaah... gotta keep in mind character usability have been nuked by -25 range nerfs, mostly graves and lucian at their respective releases.