@Riot can we get some context on the nidalee nerfs

SwiftKitten88··2 votes·467 views

the first day of PBE you removed nids passive that allowed her to root monsters. (the only thing that makes nid jungle possible) thereby completely removing her form the jungle

the next day you re-add it to her trap. which allows her to hit lvl 2 in the jungle without being executed. and now your taking that away again.

and now your increasing the lower lvl pounce damage?

what on earth is going on??? Are you trying to lower her clear speed? or completely remove her from the jungle? if you are planning on removing her from the jungle then she is going to need an insane amount of buffs in order to get her back in laning.

becuase to PUT her in the jungle and keep her balanced you did the following to her: nerf her HP nerf her spear damage increase spear cast time nerf her auto attack damage remove % damage on her traps remove vision from traps remove traps from revealing stealthed champs (which was an unlisted change that has never appeared in patch notes)

Am i missing anything else?

becuase dont get me wrong.. as somone who mained nid since season 3... i would MUCH rather play her top, mid, and support.. so by all means, kick her out of the jungle and give her her previous three roles back, i would be ecstatic if you did this...

but her CURRENT win rate in those three roles are ALL under 33%.. you cant just kick her out of the jungle and expect her to take up her old roles. without reverting the nerfs that kicked her out of those roles.

what are you trying to do here riot? because removing the root isn't going to lower her clear speed... it's goign to completely remove her from the jungle.

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metaworldpeace101 votes

Nidalee is a really problematic champion. I really really dislike playing against her, but that said I'm glad she's been pigeonholed into the jungle. She's much less oppressive there and I hope she stays there. I'm sure these nerfs are targeted for LCS level play because of how dominant she can be by those specific players/teams.

SwiftKitten882 votes

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Nidalee is a really problematic champion. I really really dislike playing against her, but that said I'm glad she's been pigeonholed into the jungle. She's much less oppressive there and I hope she stays there. I'm sure these nerfs are targeted for LCS level play because of how dominant she can be by those specific players/teams.

So because you dislike playing against her you think its fine that she is allowed to lose EVERY role she has ever had...

and nidalee is NOT problematic, if she cant hit you with a spear, she can't kill you... simple as that.

i MAIN nidalee... you want to know the difference between picking nid season 3 and 4 and picking nid season 5 and 6?

in season 3 and 4 i could first pick and lock in nid before i even declared my role.. all i need to do is lock in and say "goign top mid or support"

and guess what.. the enemy team had no idea what lane i was in.. so they dont know who is supposed to be the one to counterpick me.

in season 5 and 6? i pick nid.. they know I'm jungle.

and you wanna know what its like now...

if i get into a game as jungle and i want to go nid.. this is how champ select goes:

  1. if I'm not 4th or 5th pick... i cant pick nid because i know what what thier team is going to be.
  2. if i don't have a tanky top and support who can peel for be i cant pick nid.
  3. if they have more than 2 tanks on THEIR team i cant pick nid.
  4. if they have ANY of the following champs on thier teamVolibear MonkeyKing Udyr TahmKench Shyvana Poppy MasterYi LeeSin Illaoi Diana Fiora Garen Renekton XinZhao Nocturne .. then picking nid into those would be a VERY bad idea.

so if the games meets ALL of the conditions, then its safe for me to pick nid.

if not.. i cant really pick her.

and THEN i have to rely on my team NOT to feed while i get ahead because nid cant carry.. AND we need to win before we reach the 35 min point in which nidalee becomes worthless.

i WAN'T to play nid.. and frankly I CANT DO IT IN ABOUT 90% OF MY GAMES because of how many freaking counters and even the CHANCE of picking nid and them having ANY of those counters. plus the fact that im worthless late game and i need a team that can peel for me.

you wanna know why LCS players dont have this issue? because MOST of those champs that counter nid arn't picked in LSC.. you wanna know another reason nid is good in LCS? she KNOWS her team can peel for her, and that they will make a team comp around her.. you wanna know another reason nid is good in LCS? because she can talk to her team who all own each others champ even if the player who wants nid is first pick they can grab it last.

the reason nid is good in LSC is because in LCS she dones't HAVE the issues she has in every other elo.

you want to know why she has a 50% ban rate in LCS and only a 5% ban rate in every other elo? because she frankly SUCKS in every other elo. and unless you HAVE team teamwork and the communication to MAKE nidalee work.. she DOESN'T work.

so i dont care if she has a 90% win rate in LCS.. i STILL i cant play her in silver because i don't have a team that can work around my nidalee pick,, i dont have the communication required to MAKE nidalee even remotely viable in a teamfight.. and i DON'T EVER have a game where i can rely on my teammates to NOT FEED.

i LOVE nidalee.. i would LOVE to play her EVERY GAME. but even as she is NOW, i can almost never pick her in ranked.

if this nerf hits her.. i will NEVER be able to play her ranked.

SwiftKitten881 votes

rito... if your here.. can we get some data on this?

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