Why is everyone circlejerking about season 5 being "so diverse"

Visigoth··1 votes·559 views

Like a month ago literally 4 jungle champs were viable. And in the 28 MSI games about a third of the champion pool was picked OR banned.

For comparison of a similar game, at a Dota tournament about half the heroes were picked (NOT including bans) in 14 games.

Right now, jungle basically has 1 enchantment since everything other than cinderhulk is sub par at best, whereas cinderhulk gives a shit ton of stats.

Yeah, Mid and Bot lane are plenty diverse right now (maybe bar ADCs, but at least more than 4 were picked at MSI). Top is decent right now, maybe a little too much Hecarim and Gnar, but at least it's diverse in SoloQ.

But jungle? This season the jungle has been the least diverse by miles. We started with Warwick literally molesting everybody, then Riot called the police and got the little registered sex offender neutered, then we had the horrible reign of Vi LeeSin JarvanIV and RekSai, and then Warrior was nerfed, and Cinderhulk came in, and now we have Sejuani Gragas Nunu and RekSai... again.

Just because tanks are viable now doesn't mean it's diverse. It means literally every other jungle role got fucked over. And it isn't even Cinderhulk being strong, it's the other 3 jungle items being absolute dick. When Quill Coat was introduced and Spirit of the Ancient Golem got changed and had 25% bonus HP and bleed to monsters, it wasn't broken. Why? Because Elder Lizard, Spectral Wraith, and Feral Flare gave it meaningful competition. Right now, there is absolutely no competition because Riot's solution to tanks being weak was nerfing the other roles. Hell, I'm pretty sure Magus would've also got hit if it wasn't for the fact that Fiddlesticks and Diana were the only AP junglers that did decent, and they pretty much couldn't gank until 6.

Seriously Riot, stop fucking the jungle. Every other patch since the preseason has made the jungle weaker and weaker. It has been an absolute mess for months. Buff Devourer, Warrior, and Magus. You can't just keep making jungle weaker, because if you do, you'll nerf the strongest item every time until they all give literally negative stats. Literally. I can see it now. "Warrior: Take 10% increased damage from enemy champions." Riot's Context: "We felt that only taking 5% increased damage simple left assassin junglers too strong. They still had a chance of fighting or at least escaping from the enemy laner 10 levels above them, so we hope this change really separates the good junglers from the ones who just afk."

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BluePolarizer1 votes

Seems to me s4 jungle items were fine as they were. Why not keep their stats and have them be enchantments? I don't mind the new enchants, but I think that cinderhulk is only good due to low gold income in the jungle, making it most economical to build tanky.

Of course when new Ancient Golem came out we had the age of Rammus pick or ban.

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