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**URGENT ISSUE WITH NEW HUD**

Visigoth··224 votes·6,887 views

So, I was just playing Khazix, my favorite champion, for the first time with the new HUD. So, come level 6, I put a point into my ult, like normal. However, I was playing mid, so I couldn't evolve right away. I see at the bottom the normal level up icon for putting a point into something, my immediate reaction is "oh, I must not have put a point in anything yet," and because I was oom, I couldn't ult, and because I saw the normal level up menu, I put point into my R...

And it started evolving...

So why is this such a big deal? Because previously, Kha'Zix had separately styled icons to note that he would be using a point to evolve the ability, and not just level it up. Now it shows just like you were putting a level up point into it.

This is a huge clarity issue and almost cost me my entire laning phase. Seriously Riot, please hotfix this. Especially because if a new player saw this, they would not see any difference between evolving an ability and normally putting a point into it, because right now there is no difference at all.

TL;DR: Instead of having the special icon to show that he can evolve an ability, Kha'Zix now has the default level up button when evolving, so it looks like you just got another level point, and not an evolution.

63 Comments

MarkedOfKane52 votes

The problems with the HUD just keep coming and coming. Did the HUD even get tested really? It is massively hated.

EDIT: I don't know why everybody is down voting my post.. I was just pointing out that there are plenty of problems with the HUD. I think the old one should be brought back..

RottedApples84 votes

this is actually a legit problem and should be treated as a bug.

AbsoluteSadman32 votes

A bug for the bug.

TheDuelist9996 votes

just makes the whole world glitchy.

Lafouboy7 votes

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this is actually a legit problem and should be treated as a bug.

Kha's bug problems.

Kinda ironic.

Archeanthus2 votes

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this is actually a legit problem and should be treated as a bug.

I see what you did there. Khazix

Lowvyr1 votes

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I Main Swain11 votes

of course it's massively hated. it's something new that people aren't used to, so it confuses people. there are actually very few real problems with the new HUD, most of it is just problems with people getting used to it. it was the same when they first changed the jungle.

AbodyHUN6661 votes

Or when they changed the shop.

FLASH IT2 votes

The main reason that Riot didn't "upgrade" it's graphics was because they didn't want the game to look too confusing for the newer players. If the new update is confusing even for the veteran players, then I think that there is a major problem that should be considered looking at. Instead of changing everything at once, maybe they should introduce things gradually. I know that I'm not a high elo like most of you are, but I still notice the major problems when introducing such a big change like this, and I'm sure a lot of others out there feel the same way (low elo or not).

Troll for Trump1 votes

For veterans, the issue goes to them being used to the older HUD, knowing where things are and being used to it. They have trouble getting used to the new places of things. Newer players, especially people that play other games, are used to these type of things, with "hieroglyphics" and whatnot. They will be used to the new HUD, until another one comes out.

IS1a442cd69a169ed293a393 votes

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The problems with the HUD just keep coming and coming. Did the HUD even get tested really? It is massively hated.

EDIT: I don't know why everybody is down voting my post.. I was just pointing out that there are plenty of problems with the HUD. I think the old one should be brought back..

wtf why are people downvoting you?

Tannhäuser Gate1 votes

He editted his original post

Jari33 votes

As someone who actually likes this new HUD and doesn't play Kha or Viktor, just want to mention this. This is a serious problem I personally didn't know and riot should address. This is something it need improvement on, which is just for clarity as anyone who doesn't pay full attention can accidentally fuck themselves over. If you haven't yet, mention this in the bug forums and if you want open a ticket for it. They do need to know as this can be a very serious problem.

Purodyuusaa14 votes

Thank God it was tested on the PBE first right.

Jari10 votes

I know right? It's almost like the PBE is a testing grounds or something... Oh wait. It's the TNCH (Test New Champs Here)

WolfBV2 votes

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Thank God it was tested on the PBE first right.

I don't think I've seen anyone play viktor or kha'zix on the PBE yet. ._.

Jari1 votes

That could be one reason why it slipped. There could be many reasons actually. People who do play Vik or Kha on PBE might just play him often, so they just do it normally without noticing. Either way it's good to see it being noticed now, instead of much much later on. More likely for Riot to see it and fix it.

The Liberated17 votes

This is also issue with Viktor.. It let me augment my q.. In aram when I didn't even have my q to start at lvl 3.. Realized what I did after the fact. Icon is exact same as lvk up icon

Squidblimp7 votes

Post this in "Report a Bug" as well, please. This is the wrong section. They will more likely see it there. Also, write a support ticket too.

OperationDEEZ17 votes

Probably the same issue for Viktor , too.

RasCaelestis1 votes

Yes. I saw it myself and it was really confusing at first. I was on an ARAM and got my Hex Core upgrade as my first item. I then started putting points into Q, W, and E and was confused when I still had one left over. I figured it out within a few seconds, but I'm positive that if this doesn't get modified, at some point in the future I -and other Viktor players- are going to mistakenly augment the wrong ability thinking it's a level-up.

I know I may be in the minority here, but overall I like the new HUD. It will take some getting used to, but it looks a lot more 'polished.' That said, there are some major issues with it. For example, it's really hard to see the FPS/MS indicator. The FPS isn't that important, but the ping is vital. I have decent internet, but in League (and only League, no other games) my ping jumps around a lot, usually from 80-150. It may not seem like a lot, but it does make a difference. I've gotten used to it though and have learned to compensate really well for spikes. The hard-to-read quality of the new indicator makes it hard to make out at a glance, and I know it will have an impact on my gameplay. Between that, the ugly CDR/out-of-mana indicators on spells, and the level-up/Evolution indicators being identical, I'm having trouble liking the new HUD. Overall it looks nicer, in my opinion, but it does come with a lot of drawbacks. I really wish Riot would listen to at least some of what we're saying here.

TraderDerp2 votes

On Viktor it says : "Augment +1". Not nearly large enough to easily notice, but it does say it.

jDiosama3 votes

Finally, an actual issue with the new HUD

ArbiterOfTruth2 votes

Viktor probably has the same thing happen when he gets his hexcore upgrades.

yrureadnmyname1 votes

he does it's pretty fkn confusing

Confron7a7ion72 votes

How the hell did that get through the PBE?

Partholonian1 votes

The PBE has so few players, none of them played Viktor or Kha'zix in the time this update was on it?

Father Cthulhu4 votes

No, Riot just doesn't listen to PBE feedback when most of us actually reported this kind of shit. :P

Troll for Trump2 votes

azir Op amirite

Voidzilla2 votes

As a big fan of Khazix as well, I too found this troublesome when I played my first game as him with the new HUD. I'm extremely surprised whoever was in charge of this layout overlooked these rather crucial displays. I hope this is fixed soon.

Modl Ryden l2 votes

I'd also like to say that flashy animations and compact text doesn't make for a better or more clearer HUD.

Recently with everything compact towards the bottoms right around the minimap, kills/character HP/MP/Resource bars/ Ultimate timers, I've realized that I've been shifting towards the left side of my chair to compensate for the lack of a window on the left side of the screen.

Another thing is that you can no longer tell if someone still has base stats and that the text is too small to hover over to see the amount of damaged reduced in order to do quick calculations on whether or not your damage will be relevant enough to slay an enemy or steal an objective. The color coding on the buffed stats helped because it made you think that you had better stats than you did if you were a level 1 acc with nothing but base stats.

There is also a lack of clarity on the score board. There is no minion icon above the creeps slain number. Instead it's an ambiguous number that represents the number of minions you've slain.

Icons can't remove words. With the replacement of the character summary window, PRESSING AND HOLDING C will toggle on and off your character stats, with completely ambiguous icons now describe them. Further explanation of what those 10x10 icon tells you can be found by taking time to mouse over the icon to see what stat is affected. Icons can't remove words.

The HUD is completely compact but not minimal nor is it a cozy compact. All buff icons are moved back to their initial spots from s3 and now MELD with the roof of the bottom window which contains your spells. There buffs do not move from their spot and are OBSTRUCTED by the level up icons. There level up icons are not prominent either because of their placement which can cause you to forget you have a point to rank up the next spell. Following the topic of these ranks. The 'golden dots' that depict your spells level are very tiny.

With everything being minimap centric with ZERO color coding it's difficult to tell which score your team has. Not only that but it is very difficult to see where the champ kills for either side is now. It's all white text above the minimap.

Evo Vegas772 votes

Riot is crazy. i cant believe this did this new HUD, how can they change that? for last 4 years? I cant even play a normal game now. Even i tried to play 10 games, I almost delet this fking game b/c this fking new HUD.

Tails Doll1 votes

up

Ultîma1 votes

Hey OP, do you (or anyone else) know if this problem is affecting Viktor as well?

SH Azykan3 votes

it does

Shénzhì1 votes

Not tried this but can see the problem. Upvote.

woobee1 votes

I find your name to be extremely fitting for your favorite champion. Alas, I am for the fix of this bug's bug.

Soma Vermillion1 votes

Yup, Viktor also got the problem but it's not like Khazix because in 5v5 you get the Augments at the shop and in ARAM you could level up your skills BEFORE buying anything. (Let's be honest, who does dat? :P)

It's annoying tho. Rito fix pls. Aside from that I like the HUD.

Maratsune1 votes

I had the same thing happen to me with Viktor. I upgraded Q first in an ARAM game. That's helpful.

Kalarepa1 votes

No way the designers of the new hud didn't know about it. It's just super lazy by them to not create additional panel for evolving.

JohnnyNoxid1 votes

I quickly took notice of this when I played Viktor yesterday. Fortunately I was paying attention to my levels and noticed the "level up" icons. It took me just one second that the leveling up or evolving things are specified in text so I had no issue.

Sure, it's one thing that they could bring back, but all change takes some getting used to and I've had little issue adjusting.

Nova91 votes

I just want to point out: Its not a bug, if you see in the corner theres a small sprite saying "+1 Lvl" when you level up (or +2-3-4 etc)

However, when Viktor can augment, it says "+1 Aug" When Kha can evolve, it says "+1 Evo"

just have to pay attention to the details..

Tentacle Love1 votes

I reported this as incorrect board, but I only did so in the hopes that it would be spotted more quickly. Thanks for pointing this out.

Qsario1 votes

This was pretty confusing to me, too. I had Viktor in ARAM and I accidentally evolved Q instead of taking a point in it as I had started with the lvl 1 hex core upgrade to evolve E.

I definitely want the separate evolution/upgrade boxes back.

Troll for Trump1 votes

This is a bad bug in the game. It must really bug you.

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