Lux E still costs 130 mana

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daily reminder her ult does upwards of 1000 on a 30 second cooldown, not counting ludens or potentially procing her passive

daily reminder, that lategame ranged ad do the same damage in 2 seconds by point and click auto attacks. just saying, its burst. but burst that can be dodged. and her overall damage is not spectacular compared to other mages or ad carries.

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daily reminder her ult does upwards of 1000 on a 30 second cooldown, not counting ludens or potentially procing her passive

Only if you are fed as fuck Not counting MR Her passive always proc when you ult.

She can do a lot of damage against immobile mid champions like Orianna, Brand, etc. I wrecked an Orianna one game with Lux, finishing 20-3. But yea if she's not fed her damage is quite low.

i dont have a problem procing her passive in a fight. you just bind anyone trying to dive, get an auto off, then run away (you shouldnt be landing max-range binds on a carry on a fight if your opponent is competent - or you can use the trusty E-Ult to proc her passive). Her shield is worth the lack of damage and due to this, she scales amazingly into lategame.

The mana costs, however, probably need to be looked at.

I wouldn't go that far. Xerath was built for siege and straight up damage. Lux was built with utility and supporting more so than burst.

You are comparing fruits to rocks.

NEVER compare 2 abilities between 2 different champs with different roles with the remaining kit being well, different.

In raw damage, Orianna actually has a bit less damage than Lux in a rotation. Coupled with the fact Prismatic Barrier is an AoE refreshing barrier, where Command: Protect is a single target barrier that provides very little bonus MR/Armor (got nerfed significantly.)

In theory, Orianna has an easier time dealing damage in an AoE if setup properly (Hurr R-W-Q, so hard.) But Lux under certain conditions (the jungle, for example) outscales Orianna's AoE damage in a team fight.

In my humblest opinion, Lux is not exactly out-classed like you claim, but fills a different support niche that no other caster provides. She can illuminate the shadows with E and ultimate, she has a great counter-initiation in the form of Q and W. She has pretty decent sustained damage in fights if you learn to master Illumination. Let's not forget that a perfect Prismatic Barrier has the potential to block up to 180 + (AP*.7) for her entire team.

Though I agree that we could remove the cast time on W. She already has one one her Q, E and ultimate. I'm pretty sure we can shave off and add a little more reliability on Prismatic Barrier.

Why would she get nerfed? Even with acceptable mana costs she wouldn't exactly be fotm. Immobile utility mages aren't what most people play.

i just need one or two dorans. when i get some item i can one shoot there adc with e r combo. she is strong. you should go 2x doran into ludens then morello, meja, void, dcap

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didnt she recently get a buff on the pbe?

they increased the damage on her passive again. meaning youre getting more damage out of a single e, if you pop the passive.

i just remember seing something like that. not sure if its gonna go through.

i think the reason why its so expensive is, that youre not supposed to purely rely on the e for poke, but that you should use the q more and then chain it with the e to get actual damage in on a hit.

Where exactly did they buff her passive? If you're talking about the "buff" a few patches ago so passive applies to ult, it wasn't a buff. It was always there, but they never bothered to fix it until that patch.

Also, a basic ability that has low damage, low scaling, and a mediocre slow that doesnt even last after it's exploded (lux uses it for burst 95% of the time, not zoning.) and has more mana cost than an ult surely needs a mana reduction.

What waveclear? Considering she still has to auto the minions to clear it, it still isn't worth.

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Lux E still covers the whole entire mid lane. Lux E is also impossible to miss.

Like LB's W? And I am pretty sure LB's W deals more dmg

Tell me. Does 130 mana for one move that can't even kill the caster minions at level 6 sound reasonable?

This would be a viable argument except that a large number of the assassins she fights in mid have NONE of these concerns, and most have easy ways to close the distance through her range and destroy her. "A lot of damage" is a bit misleading. Additionally, she is punished hard for missing, which gets more and more likely as more and more hypermobility champions are released, many of whom don't even care if they miss THEIR spells.

Your suggested playstyle indicates that Lux will be pushed to tower instantly by several champions who CAN use their spells as often as possible to do damage constantly, where she will begin losing cs while her assassin opponent heads bot to get double kills (because that's always how that works). The risk to playing Lux does nothing but increase as Riot continues this ridiculous mobility creep; the reward must increase as well. She should have her mana costs buffed AND increased damage on her spells because the inbuilt counterplay of "use one of my multiple dashes" will always exist with her, AND she is still on the short list for squishiest champion in the game. You don't sit back and let her rain harass down on you, you get in and hit her and she dies. The problem is she can't even do that even if you do it wrong.

The simple fact is that Lux can play pitch perfectly against many champions and still lose lane and one single misstep results in a death when those same opponents have safety nets for days and need to fuck up repeatedly before they even have to consider leaving. The reason for it is that she burns out of mana immediately regardless of what she tries to do and her damage is nowhere near sufficient to scare away an opponent (especially one who's coming back to lane with a scepter, if not a cutlass, when he DOES leave).

But Lux isn't an assassin or an adc so I expect nothing to ever change :o ~Uiru