Rekt sai is shit, you did an awful job with a melee champ without slows.

Phife·Dec 11, 2014·7 votes·1,872 views

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Drunk RummateDec 11, 201411 votes

i remember when everyone was talking about how op kalista was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible yasuo was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible gnar was at release

so forgive me when i say i have no faith in your ability to predict the strength of this champion

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} i remember when everyone was talking about how op kalista was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible yasuo was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible gnar was at release

so forgive me when i say i have no faith in your ability to predict the strength of this champion

You can look up my profile i called it about kalista, shes shit and so is rek sai.

The Storm DragonDec 11, 20142 votes

{quoted} i remember when everyone was talking about how op kalista was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible yasuo was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible gnar was at release

so forgive me when i say i have no faith in your ability to predict the strength of this champion

Yasuo and Gnar were both buffed after release because they were shit tier. So was Lucian for that matter.

Drunk RummateDec 11, 20146 votes

[{quoted}](name=OGZ Bob Gnarly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2014-12-11T21:08:14.355+0000) Yasuo and Gnar were both buffed after release because they were shit tier. So was Lucian for that matter.

And then they were promptly nerfed to worse than their release point because people realized how amazing they are.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=OGZ Bob Gnarly,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2014-12-11T21:08:14.355+0000) Yasuo and Gnar were both buffed after release because they were shit tier. So was Lucian for that matter.

Get ur facts straight, you were told they were shit and then u sheeped. At least im being original by being the first one to say rek sai is shit.

XonraDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} i remember when everyone was talking about how op kalista was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible yasuo was at release

i remember when everyone was talking about how terrible gnar was at release

so forgive me when i say i have no faith in your ability to predict the strength of this champion

Kalista is still strong. I haven't found a single pro adc that doesn't love her

Yasuo wasn't great on release and he got quite a few buffs. A few too many honestly.

Gnar was on the fence and again he got a lot of buffs

I don't think Rek'Sai is bad but your examples are.

PhifeDec 12, 20141 votes

Kalista is shit, yasuo was broken, and gnar was underwhelming a first.

rek sai needs a slow.

XonraDec 12, 20142 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Am Tolan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=000400020000,timestamp=2014-12-12T01:41:10.688+0000) Kalista is shit, yasuo was broken, and gnar was underwhelming a first.

rek sai needs a slow.

Someone must have peed in your cereal this morning. You seem so angry for some reason. Or I hope it is anger and this isn't your normal go to attitude.

TeemoJenkinsDec 11, 20145 votes

Someone bookmark this thread for when the whiners come and complain about Rek'Sai being OP.

HumanPerfectDec 11, 20143 votes

Burrowed Q should slow at the very least. Otherwise, it just seems like the biggest out of place move on her kit (although not the only thing, by far).

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=MetaI Gear,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2014-12-11T20:47:29.323+0000) Burrowed Q should slow at the very least. Otherwise, it just seems like the biggest out of place move on her kit (although not the only thing, by far).

^ this, it does 180 base damage at 5... what the fuck, if its not going to hit hard then why doesn't it slow?

XenividDec 11, 20141 votes

Rek'sai isn't about assassination in the style of current assassins. Rek'sai assassinates by giving her team a unique type of vision and scouting (Burrow Q) as well as incredible mobility.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

IM NOT SAYING SHE SHOULD BE AN ASSASIN! She has no stick potential. Rek sai is kited suuuper easily.

XenividDec 11, 20141 votes

Like lots of champs, you could say it's her...counterplay. Oh myyyyyy

Sightless66Dec 11, 20142 votes

The question then follows, does she have ample mechanisms to respond to the counterplay, or to counterplay enemies? Not so sure she does.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

this.

Earl EulrichDec 11, 20143 votes

in SoloQ she´s most likely absolutely worthless.

In a coordinated 5v5 however she offers an insane amount of wavecontrol/mappreassure, if you pick a comp around her (mostly 4-1split/poke) she can surely be very strong, but it needs a lot of coordination and knowledge to make her work.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=Don Eulrich,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2014-12-11T20:52:37.128+0000) in SoloQ she´s most likely absolutely worthless.

In a coordinated 5v5 however she offers an insane amount of wavecontrol/mappreassure, if you pick a comp around her (mostly 4-1split/poke) she can surely be very strong, but it needs a lot of coordination and knowledge to make her work.

That much coordination is never found in any teams. even if you're duoing... she need self sustainable stick power.

CenturosDec 11, 20143 votes

Frozen Mallet exists for a reason.

PhifeDec 11, 20142 votes

{quoted} Frozen Mallet exists for a reason.

lmao, you gotta hit them in melee to apply that slow. Also 3k+ cost for something that should be in this champions kit is not how you play the game.

Sasafrassus RexDec 11, 20141 votes

Thank you

Nived123Dec 11, 20142 votes

i agree

F03Dec 11, 20142 votes

its called chill smite

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} its called chill smite

50% slow for 2s? with a 60s cd? dont joke with me.

Smite has to be used on wraith camp for ward sweeper, how can i use that item effectively?

F03Dec 11, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Am Tolan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2014-12-11T22:36:59.782+0000) 50% slow for 2s? with a 60s cd? dont joke with me.

Smite has to be used on wraith camp for ward sweeper, how can i use that item effectively?

you bitched about not having one

i gave you one

now you are bitching that it isn't effective

you just lost your entire argument

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} you bitched about not having one

i gave you one

now you are bitching that it isn't effective

you just lost your entire argument

You gave me a slow that is outside of her kit on a 60 second cooldown.

XenividDec 11, 20141 votes

Maybe Rek'sai just isn't the champion you want to play.

League of PotatoDec 12, 20142 votes

Just because you're shit with her doesn't make her a shit champion. Use a different champion, there's a reason that you have 100+ champs to choose from.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

Try and prove me wrong.

How do you have a melee champ with no vision / slows.

redniwediSDec 11, 20141 votes

She has enough damage and mobility to compensate. Have you actually tried her yet?

Sightless66Dec 11, 20142 votes

I played her a bit on the PBE, and I'm not actually sure her mobility is good enough to compensate. She has good overall map movement with the ult and the tunnels, but her in-fight mobility is limited to E. She doesn't move particularly fast with W because her base movement speed is only 335. The only way her mobility works out is for chasing with multiple tunnel systems. In fights, she's really, really easy to kite.

She can be slippery in her own terrain, but I'm not sure that her actual in-fight mobility (what little of it she has) is sufficient to make up for her mediocre CC.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} I played her a bit on the PBE, and I'm not actually sure her mobility is good enough to compensate. She has good overall map movement with the ult and the tunnels, but her in-fight mobility is limited to E. She doesn't move particularly fast with W because her base movement speed is only 335. The only way her mobility works out is for chasing with multiple tunnel systems. In fights, she's really, really easy to kite.

She can be slippery in her own terrain, but I'm not sure that her actual in-fight mobility (what little of it she has) is sufficient to make up for her mediocre CC.

on fucking ponit sir! The problem is after you go in with your E and knock the target(s) up i they flash / ghost or use anything to dash / roll away from you, rek sai is basically fucked. You can burrow then run at them you have like 20 more MS... thats nothing.

Bears Dont CareDec 11, 20142 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Am Tolan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2014-12-11T22:29:34.304+0000) on fucking ponit sir! The problem is after you go in with your E and knock the target(s) up i they flash / ghost or use anything to dash / roll away from you, rek sai is basically fucked. You can burrow then run at them you have like 20 more MS... thats nothing.

Many champs have the same issue though. Master Yi sn't gong to dive someone under the tower when they flash/ghost away. She acts like Maokai, providing CC and some damage while forcing summoner spell burns.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

Master Yi - ACTIVE: For 10 seconds, Master Yi gains increased movement speed and attack speed, and becomes immune to all slowing effects.
Maokai has a ranged Targeted gap closer and 2 aoe slows

Dont compare Rek Sai with any champion who has a slow.

redniwediSDec 11, 20141 votes

It's a good comparison though. She has less CC than Maokai but still has the same amount of pressure with her higher damage output. Her role is to force enemies to use summoner spells and push them off of both allied and enemy objectives, not go in and get kills. She doesn't have to be good at chasing when her job is to convince the enemy team to run.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} It's a good comparison though. She has less CC than Maokai but still has the same amount of pressure with her higher damage output. Her role is to force enemies to use summoner spells and push them off of both allied and enemy objectives, not go in and get kills. She doesn't have to be good at chasing when her job is to convince the enemy team to run.

if she cant apply pressure by sticking to the target how can she force them to use spells?

redniwediSDec 11, 20141 votes

Why would she need to stick to someone in order to chase them off of an objective? She is capable of enough damage to force a decision. They either stay and fight, and probably die, or they retreat to safety. Since she is not great at sticking to her target retreating will always be a viable option, which is good when that's what she's trying to get them to do.

With her own items she can easily stick to someone who refuses to use their skills/spells to escape. It's a different form of pressure than Maokai uses, but the roles do the same thing.

Sightless66Dec 11, 20141 votes

Maokai has a lot more CC than her though, and Master Yi has very high movement speed and a resettable targeted gapcloser. She doesn't really bear a similarity to either, and I don't think either has her problem. She needs to be staying in range to do a lot of damage, as opposed to Maokai who can just CC whoever comes near whenever his cooldowns are up and be doing his job, and Master Yi can respond to enemy action easier while also being much more assassin-like. She reminds me more of a slower Nocturne than either of those.

BewareTheDragon1Dec 11, 20142 votes

You have mordekaiser.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} You have mordekaiser.

leave the thread and stop trying to derail.

Bears Dont CareDec 11, 20141 votes

Have you attempted to use E more offensively?

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

{quoted} Have you attempted to use E more offensively?

I have, but its range is no greater than her auto attack range...

Bears Dont CareDec 11, 20141 votes

[{quoted}](name=I Am Tolan,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UgEL3aOk,comment-id=00080000,timestamp=2014-12-11T23:16:00.768+0000) I have, but its range is no greater than her auto attack range...

No no no, I mean her burrowed E.

PhifeDec 11, 20141 votes

Oh well i mean, yeah of course thats how i get into the fight to knock up multiples at once...

PhifeDec 12, 20141 votes

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