"ACTIVE: Yasuo blinks to the nearest visible airborne enemy champion to the cursor, instantly generating maximum Flow. Upon arriving, he Stun icon suspends all nearby airborne enemies for 1 second and deals them physical damage."
SwapShadows13 votesbecause in reality and not in your dream world yasuo is a melee ADC meaning he needs a way to not instantly die once he goes in.
Stars Shaper2 votes
franticFurball3 voteswhy? Hes a squishy assassin, hes SUPPOSED to die instantly if he engages under the wrong circumstances-
Jbels5 voteswhy? Hes a squishy assassin, hes SUPPOSED to die instantly if he engages under the wrong circumstances-
lol what? Zed begs to differ. And So does Fizz. You know what, fuck it. So does Ekko
IcyPepper3 votesAnd to a lesser extent, Katarina, Kassadin, Ahri, Akali, Leblanc, Vayne, Nidalee, Shaco, Riven, and so on. I say lesser because some of their tools aren't as strong, or they aren't as assassin-y or whatever, but in general they have tools to get out.
Assassins typically have some manner to escape. Doesn't always feel fair, but sometimes it does. Really wish they could make a "Renekton bar" for assassins, so they don't feel as bullshit as... let's say Fizz, I guess. Let's make a Talon bar or something.
Stars Shaper2 votesHe would insta die even if he got all enemies with his ultimate because he lands after and has not instant gap closing/invulnerability.
CatSith2 votesno, they ll be dead.
Stars Shaper2 votesIf they stand still and let him Q them for the whole time he has the ArmPen buff yes they will.
NemeBro2 voteswhy? Hes a squishy assassin, hes SUPPOSED to die instantly if he engages under the wrong circumstances-
Yasuo isn't an assassin. He's a melee ADC. He can't burst the enemy ADC in under a second like Rengar or Talon can unless he is very fed.
All melee ADCs have some method of surviving combat once they dive in.
Smefanye1 votes"He can't burst the enemy ADC in under a second like Rengar or Talon can unless he is very fed." pfft, yeah once he gets shiv he'll melt the adc in 2 seconds flat even if he's 0/4
CatSith1 votesIf you think he fits with fiora, jax, and master yi in a category then you are delusional.
Stars Shaper2 votesIndeed, those champions have more reliable source of damage/burst and better defenses.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesOk I've seen this shit twice now, when the fuck did Jax become an mADC. He builds like two damaging items max, and acts as front line tank for his team by late game. I would consider Jax a bruiser or a juggernaut before I would ever group him with adc's.
Stars Shaper1 votesThat's what Yasuo does too unless he builds the Life Steal item, 2 offensive items and then all defensive.
YCitizenSnipsY1 voteshttp://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo http://champion.gg/champion/Jax
not sure if trolling but Yasuo and Jax play or build nothing alike
Stars Shaper1 votesMy bad, I didn't realize his common build now. 2 Patches ago he was building only Shiv and IE and then getting all defensive items.
Durzaka1 votesYasuo has never been played like that, in his entire history.
Stars Shaper1 votesI'm pretty sure there has been a time when this was a consolidated build, probably the first times he was picked in LCS with the addition of LW time to time.
Durzaka1 votesNo, Yasuo never built tanky when he was played in the LCS, except for maybe in a couple of games.
Woodsy25756 votesHe would explode if he didn't?
Penns4 votesHe should explode.
Stars Shaper2 votesSo he should be punished for hitting the whole enemy team with his ultimate? Doublestandard much?
Penns2 votesHe should be punished for hitting the whole enemy team with his ultimate 1v5, not get rewarded with a penta kill lel. Also he should be punished for ulting into you with 100 HP, without even being fed, after you beat his ass, not just oneshot you.
Stars Shaper2 votesIf he dives alone and it's not terribly fed then he dies, shield or not.
If he kills you while he is at 100 hp it's because you yourself are at 50 hp.
HEAljvLykd5 votesPuts him right in the middle of the fucking enemy team!! Of course he should generate maximum flow.
CatSith1 votesThen lets hand free shields to everyone, because that is what a team fight is right? to go into the enemy team?
You get a shield! You get a shield! You get a shield! Everybody gets a shield!
Jbels2 votesThen lets hand free shields to everyone, because that is what a team fight is right? to go into the enemy team?
You get a shield! You get a shield! You get a shield! Everybody gets a shield!
Bro, you're just mad that you got outplayed by Yasuo. His ult has alot of outplay Potential. I don't see you bitching about Ekko's shield that lasts longer, is bigger, and can have a stun attached to it. This isn't about shields, this is about "Yasuo beat me and I'm angry, so I'm blaming his shield!" Grow up, learn his counterplay, move on.
CatSith1 votesLol What? Ekkos shield needs him in the vicinity to stun and you have to guess where the enemy is gonna be.
While yasuo's ult is instant and knocks up whomever is next to the target, as well as do the damage, has armor penetration, and oh don't forget the free shield!
It isn't a counter play thread. That is a lot of things in 1 skill, that takes no skill to land.
Jbels1 votesLol What? Ekkos shield needs him in the vicinity to stun and you have to guess where the enemy is gonna be.
While yasuo's ult is instant and knocks up whomever is next to the target, as well as do the damage, has armor penetration, and oh don't forget the free shield!
It isn't a counter play thread. That is a lot of things in 1 skill, that takes no skill to land.
You don't have to hit people with the stun to get the shield. You can throw it down, pop it and go in with a 600 something health shield, which is bigger than Yasuo's. Getting back on track, Yasuo has had enough nerfs. They've removed half of his E's power just before people started realizing you could max it first and do stupid damage in the laning phase, his flow generation got bashed, his shield duration got bashed, his ult range got bashed. He's Q's speed even took a hit, the minimum cooldown is higher than it used to be. Yasuo is in a good spot right now, but I wouldn't call him broken. RELEASE Yasuo was broken. Nobody realized it though, and he got buffed after his release
Stars Shaper1 votes{quoted} While yasuo's ult is instant and knocks up whomever is next to the target
Really?
While yasuo's ult is instant and** knocks up **whomever is next to the target
You forgot it has Gobal Range too and when Yasuo lands he is safely in the Nexus but can still hit you with his Q.
Stars Shaper1 votesZed can insta port backwards, Fiora kills you and then AoE heals, Trynda just can't die and Yi doesn't even put himself in the middle of the enemy team.
I guess a shield that does last 1 AA in mid/lategame is something you shouldn't be complaining about.
theragingnerd1 votes[{quoted}](name=Stars Shaper,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UXlOTpzi,comment-id=000400000001,timestamp=2015-09-12T15:27:18.772+0000)
Zed can insta port backwards, Fiora kills you and then AoE heals, Trynda just can't die and Yi doesn't even put himself in the middle of the enemy team.
I guess a shield that does last 1 AA in mid/lategame is something you shouldn't be complaining about.
wtf? yi def puts himself into the middle of the team have you ever played him kek
Stars Shaper1 votesI was talking about Alpha Strike, it gives him untargettability and puts him back to square one.
Stars Shaper3 votesBecause he lands after his enemies making him really vulnerable the more enemies he hits.
SwapShadows3 votesYasuo is not an assassin, under normal circumstances he isn't going to instantly kill off a carry just because he ulted them in a teamfight.
He is a utility based melee ADC and all melee ADCs have defensive and offensive capabilities.
CatSith1 votesNot an assassin?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo
hmmm i guess his secondary role that says assassin isnt an assassin then?
SwapShadows3 votesNot an assassin?
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Yasuo
hmmm i guess his secondary role that says assassin isnt an assassin then?
that's because he has assassin traits that are in fact weakened compared to other assassins, you don't call Vayne an assassin and play like one because she has assassin traits.
having a secondary role means you can find sitations where you can play like an assassin or a fighter or a tank but you are normally always playing what your main role is supposed to be.
example: you can assassinate a solo adc thats farming botlane with vayne but in a teamfight you aren't going infront of the frontline to start attacking their carries
CatSith2 votesHe is an assassin.
Durzaka1 votesAnd riots role marking is utter shit.
Teemo is listed as an ADC, remember?
JustMyBassCannon1 votesIt's his secondary trait. It's in the same vein of design as Jax, Master Yi Lee Sin, Fiora, Vi and Xin Zhao. He's not an assassin, he's a fighter with assassin-esque qualities.
What are assassins' qualities, anyway?
-Focus on killing a single target at a time -Prefer to fight squishy targets first -Mobility to get in/out of fights -Usually have some gimmick defense tool (stealth and untargetability are common) -Often have CC
Huh, looks like Jax, Lee, Xin, Fiora, Vi, Yi and Yasuo do a lot of that. But, wait, what was the primary archetype? Oh yeah, they're Fighters.
Funny thing about Fighters, they're all designed as front-line champions, which means they need to be able to deal and take damage. This is because they don't deal significant burst damage; their strength is in high DPS instead. Instead of being the average assassin's 2-3k damage in 2 seconds, they deal a ton of damage as the fight extends.
No, Yasuo is not an assassin, when compared to Kha'zix, Fizz, Talon, Zed, Katarina, Leblanc, etc.
Aeolian Melodies2 votesCertainlyT champion
Akali is SO HOT2 voteslol git gud op
SwapShadows2 votesthere's way too many uninformed idiots on these forums
CatSith1 votesYeah and you are one of them :).
Durzaka2 votesBecause he didnt have that when he was released, and he was absolutely hands down the worst champion in the game at the time.
It was absolutely laughable how bad Yasuo was before they added that (and a couple other minor things) in shortly after his release.
Kouga2 votesWell, to be fair, at least this is a relatively new complaint among a sea of QQ threads.
That said, I'll make the same point I make every time these pop up. While number tweaks are a constant cycle, Yasuo's kit itself isn't anything unusual for a melee carry. They all have similar components to their kits that make them viable in a game. In this case, some kind of defense (generally damage mitigation rather than resistances) is present in all of their kits. Yi has Meditate (and invulnerable frame in Alpha Strike), Fiora has her parry, Tryndamere has "fuck you I can't die", and Yasuo has his shield & wind wall.
Yasuo, admittedly, tends to have more defense in his kit since he has two abilities and his wall, situationally, is very strong. Yasuo also has lower end-game damage. Yasuo's ult also tends to put him in very close proximity to 1-5 enemies, and generally incentivizes him to use it at the start of a fight (to capitalize on the bonus armor pen) so in order to help him do so, it refreshes his shield.
Even then his shield is brief and has limits - nuke him hard enough and he will die, whereas Tryn can just shrug it off and Fiora negates it entirely.
Fun Fact: At max range past level 13, Yasuo would passively fill just over 25% of his Flow bar via his ultimate just based on the travel distance alone. Of course it is rare that Yasuo will be at the exact max range for his Ultimate, but he probably would also be moving around prior to using it and would be filling the bar anyway. So while it does fill in the "gap" in his flow bar its not that far off base.
ninjaIRL 1 votesHe needs that safety shield. You're pointing at the wrong parts of his kit. His Windwall needs a rework IMO.
Mr Broken Wings1 votesBecause he has less basehealth than sona and needs to be melee, bronze question.
CatSith1 votesUm no, he doesn't.
Only Play Darius1 votesBecause he build glass and just teleported into the middle of the enemy team.