No mobility, single target, but does her job? Better nerf.

Neo Cyrus·1/19/2015, 1:21:16 PM·25 votes·3,723 views

The screenshot is from "today's" NA stats (meaning yesterday or the day before). It's inflated and higher than it should be due to it being 44% in Bronze, but the sample size would have been too small if I selected a single league. A week's worth of stats aren't available yet but when something is so fucking obvious as this, is it really necessary...

A single target mage, who's entire game revolves around being able to bully the enemies early to transition into a mid game (always had a shit late game) to pick off targets now has both those attributes removed. Her laning is now hilariously weak. It's not even worth attempting to harass especially with the mana nerfs this season, and going for picks isn't even reliable when her Q->E combo passes right through the middle of champions, even large ones.

And before anyone says "Durr hurr her win rate in Korea is 48%!". That's the previous patch, the stats aren't updated. It was 48% (probably inflated by Bronzies again) before the nerfs.

Syndra has the lowest win rate in the game now? Better nerf Sona. Though if the Ahri nerfs go through I'm sure she'll be even lower than 40%.

2 years from now some tools will say the same thing they said about Karma, Irelia, etc. That she was "fine", when in fact everything else in the game had to be nerfed 5+ times over before those champions became viable again. The reverse power creep is insane.

Edit: I see some people say good riddance that this champion is ruined. It's never good when a champion is ruined. Aside from the obvious reasons why, it then increases the effectiveness of others, then they're eventually nerfed, and the cycle repeats.

63 Comments

Junkο1/19/2015, 2:27:09 PM14 votes

It's because her stun is bugged, it almost never works but most of the time still deals dmg.

If you think Syndra is bad now, just wait till next patch when they remove DFG cause they said they will give her 0 compensation. RIP Syndra, i loved playing you when all my mains were banned while it lasted

Opistach1/19/2015, 1:47:49 PM8 votes

I just hate the kill button. Also she isn't technically single target, she very much has AOE burst.

Also they are buffing/ have buffed Ahri.

Jamaree1/19/2015, 1:45:53 PM8 votes

Biasly saying good. Screw Syndra.

SEKAI1/19/2015, 1:50:41 PM6 votes

Flashy and overloaded kit with no meaningful counterplay options equal skill these days. Nobody touches them.

While the downright but solid champ with clear advantages and otherwise are either called OP or Noob Champ, and always get nerfed one way or another, sooner or later.

Although this is somewhat a biased assessment but I doubt anyone can fully disagree that this issue is alive and well within this game's community.

EDIT: Syndra was really annoying though but isn't the worst thing ever. However her lvl 6 power spike was the thing I hate the most about her.

U4fyn2vZzW1/19/2015, 3:28:59 PM5 votes

Sorry but i don't feel sorry for this champion.

Was oppressive as shit in lane for to long.

Haunt1/19/2015, 4:22:02 PM4 votes

Saying Syndra is single target is like saying Zed and Talon are single target. They all only have ONE ability that are single target, and the rest can hit multiple people. While I do agree it is much harder to harass early game, and now her stun has a less annoying hitbox, her ult damage is still absolutely insane at all stages unless you're 0/8. Ahr actually requires more skill to play and that is what is probably making her win rate drop. (That, and the fact that it IS a nerf, so win rate will go down even slightly no matter what.)

Anyways yeah, I'm ready for downvotes because I said my opinion.

AetherKingdom1/19/2015, 3:04:53 PM4 votes

"Single target" yea after she dfg q ults and kills someone she presses e and chunks your entire team, while stunning them with retarded hitboxes. such skill.

qetzel1/19/2015, 3:53:49 PM3 votes

I'll bet that when the bug is fixed it will go back up again. Maybe even higher than before because the players that couldn't play her very well anyway will stop if she is even slightly weaker.

Diostukos1/19/2015, 6:26:38 PM3 votes

Thought this was going to be another Sona thread lol

They seriously need to fix Syndra's E. I can recall so many times yesterday that he stun /should/ have gone off but just went straight through the champion like if it was a ghost.

The Red Warden1/19/2015, 9:36:12 PM3 votes

Yeah this is how us who like Olaf have felt for 2+ years now, get in line. Trust me, she won't be buffed or changed. They will say she is low priority, yet still too toxic to ever be buffed. You just lost your main, wait 2+ years to get them back

Sightless661/19/2015, 6:26:55 PM2 votes

It's not the nerfs. She's bugged. Her E is randomly failing. That's the problem.

Cerbearus1/19/2015, 4:35:39 PM2 votes

Good. Let her linger in limbo with every other champ Riot nerfs into the ground, Urgot, Karma for the longest time, Evelynn, Olaf...

AhhShucks1/20/2015, 1:02:37 AM2 votes

She's the only champ in the game who can miss every ability she has and then oneshot you with DFG-ult anyway. Laning against her she is always going to have enough balls out to do that. The most any mid range mage can hope to do against her is trade kills no matter how much they outplay her. DFG being gone is only going to make it so she actually has to hit you once or twice before she kills you, which is a limitation pretty much everyone else has to deal with anyway. Good riddance.