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AP Malphite lacks relevant counterplay

Śhunpo·2/21/2020, 6:36:39 PM·1 votes·6,470 views

No champion should have access to an ooga-booga "I kill you now" button. No, is not counterplay because that's a 5 minute cooldown vs a 90 sec CD ability (on average). and are also not counterplay options as not every champ builds these AND they're expensive AND Banshee's can be broken via proc.

Why does he now also have 0 issues with spamming in laning phase? And why is this ok? Seriously, Manaflow and Corrupting Pot just make it so that he never goes OOM unless he plays like an idiot. Malphite's main weakness used to be that he was mana hungry, which balanced his laning phase and made it so that he needed more than Q spam to win.

But the crux of the issue is his ultimate. Unstoppable Force is a great tank ultimate...now why is it also a full-on nuke when you play him AP? It's got great range, good speed and a generous hitbox and its cooldown scales incredibly well. The fact that you NEED to Flash means that this ability is toxic, especially due to its rather short cooldown (for what it does).

And no, before you ask, champion escape abilities also usually don't work due to its hitbox, range and general surprise factor when cast from FoW. Riot reworked Katarina because of the fact that you needed to react to her split second to stop her, so why should Malphite have the same requirement in this day and age?

Just give Malphite a proper rework at this point, because his Q and R are incredibly outdated, uninteractive and uninteresting.

Thank you.

P.S: I've played both as and against AP Malphite, it's actually so bs lmao

51 Comments

Quiet Dude2/21/2020, 6:38:42 PM18 votes

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No champion should have access to an ooga-booga "I kill you now" button.

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Yea god forbid another champion has something like it

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ZackTheWaffleMan2/21/2020, 6:59:34 PM6 votes

I feel like Malphite R should scale with health/armor/low%AP so that it hits harder only if you build tanky (as intended)

ContDeCaterinca12/21/2020, 7:29:54 PM3 votes

How about bulding MR against him and not picking 2 ADCs and 2 mages/assassins.

Duskdemon2/21/2020, 10:19:36 PM2 votes

You realize that his full combo is R+E+W and then Q, right?

And that his whole combo is reliant on his ult and without it he's just kinda trucks around tossing Qs out every now and than? And that if you really have problem with AP Malphite, you should probably direct your attention to the real problem that is AP itemization? And that most other mages have just as a cancerous "one shotting" capabilities on lower cooldowns and are non-ult reliant while also staying at range?

FeedKaylePlease2/26/2020, 10:14:55 AM2 votes

AP Malphite is just some cheesy shit that only works on noobs. No decent player would seriously consider AP Malphite competitively viable.

GFREEMEN2/22/2020, 8:55:43 AM1 votes

They need to lower his AP ratios.

blood bond2/26/2020, 7:54:32 AM1 votes

Change ur perspective. Mal is almost useless without his ult even when ahead, so when his ult is down force on the team. Haven't u notice that a malphite will waste ult some times for an irrelevant kill on a support. Now their top malphite is useless in the dmg department even tho u missing a support ur team can still out dmg them them in a 4v5. The point is a lot of malphite power is in his R, so u need to force fights when it is down.

WeaselGod2/27/2020, 7:42:16 PM1 votes

Malphite is a pubstomper and nothing more. Against an actual team of people who know how to counter him hes utterly useless. At the most hes a minor annoyance early game since all he can do is spam Q, even then he still does hardly any damage. He doesnt start actually dealing damage until late game and at that point people already have their tanky items making him yet again useless. You have to actually build full AP in order to kill any one and the only person youre gonna be killing is a support and maybe an adc. Even when building full AP malphite is now a squishy, making him die the moment he ults in.

Iron Rubric2/21/2020, 8:59:35 PM1 votes

Banshee or the ad version of it.

Or any small amount of Mr

Or flash, or any champ with a quick dash or blink

Waka FIocka2/22/2020, 12:54:10 AM1 votes

Karthus R too... cant even escape it unless you have some kind of mega shield ability/item, summoner 21 , or item 2420 / item 3157 . I've always thought his ult was bs. Damaging everyone from anywhere is nuts, and his ult can easily drop to 1 min cd or less with runes and high cdr.

Sonic Adventure2/22/2020, 3:31:17 AM1 votes

Banshees hard counters Malphite and it's useful in all AP champs. He has no way of breaking it without getting extremely close.

Maw the same in AD ones.

Tanks counter malph completely.

Leon41672/22/2020, 4:21:02 AM1 votes

If laning phase is the only part your having difficultly with then just play a Tank. Early game might still be difficult but once you get your first item done it'll start to hurt less. Even if you're playing Bruisers like Rene or Aatrox buying a Stoneplate isn't a bad idea and gives you better survivablity in teamfights. Even getting Merc Treads can make all the difference you'll need for the game.