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Phase Rush Melee Buff Idea

SergeantScuttler··3 votes·2,733 views

This is a fun rune but ultimately not generally good enough if you want to actually win games. I don't know if it's optimal on literally any champion right now. Even Xin doesn't take it anymore.

This has the potential to be abused by ranged champs since they can proc. it from safety without even getting in range of CC. However, for melees, it's not really possible to use it as safely.

It already has slow resistance and my buff proposal is to give it 25% tenacity for melee in addition to the 75% slow resistance for both melee & ranged. I think this would finally make it a realistic option instead of just kind of a troll experiment. Before you get scared about Yi taking it, know that you still give up a ton of damage not going Lethal Tempo, PTA, Conqueror etc. on the champs which would seem scariest with this. A Phase Rush Yi would also have strong anti-synergies with his R because of MS caps in the game drastically reducing the effectiveness of additional boosts + the slow resistance on it would be wasted on him. Yi needs to be strong 1v1 and to clean up fights. 25% tenacity won't suddenly make it worth on him or champions like him.

I was also thinking that it might be nicer if it gave flat MS so as to not overly advantage champions with high base MS. What do you guys think? Have other ideas?

11 Comments

Frosted Tips2 votes

Nah the melee champions that take this rune are only countered by CC so giving them tenacity would make them extra cancer.

Illabethe2 votes

Sorry but I disagree and I use Phase rush. Phase rush at 30% is godly, especially on a 6 second cooldown.

I use Phase Rush Ornn. It decimates.

You're basically asking for a Keystone to = item 3172 NO THANK YOU.

I used to rush item 3172 on Udyr in Season 4. It was the EASIEST path to a 30/0 game.

Champions I use it on:

Ornn Pyke Evelynn Karma

I also use it on Zyra when it DH won't carry a game.

Just because a champ doesn't default to Phase rush does NOT mean it's not OP. It simply means the players prefer damage to movement.

astralwit1 votes

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Sorry but I disagree and I use Phase rush. Phase rush at 30% is godly, especially on a 6 second cooldown.

I use Phase Rush Ornn. It decimates.

You're basically asking for a Keystone to = item 3172 NO THANK YOU.

I used to rush item 3172 on Udyr in Season 4. It was the EASIEST path to a 30/0 game.

Champions I use it on:

Ornn Pyke Evelynn Karma

I also use it on Zyra when it DH won't carry a game.

Just because a champ doesn't default to Phase rush does NOT mean it's not OP. It simply means the players prefer damage to movement.

It has a 15 second CD. What do you mean?

Also, it not being the best performing rune on literally almost any champion except maybe Vlad does mean it probably isn't that strong. It's not just about preferene. The win rates aren't there either.

Illabethe1 votes

There is a difference between performance and preference. Phase Rush simply isn't chosen, because the forebrain'd individuals playing this game find move speed an abstract discussion where added damage is easy to understand. It doesn't lack of win rates. It lacks of play rates.

If it were played, the win rates would improve too. The death rates per champion would decrease. But people prefer 1 more kill average per game than 1 less death per game.

HKT Saber1 votes

Phaze Rush Darius is really good on paper, if that helps. You'd still want Hail for hard matchups though

SergeantScuttler2 votes

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Phaze Rush Darius is really good on paper, if that helps. You'd still want Hail for hard matchups though

On paper, like you said. Even though it's taken in only 6.5% of games (perhaps where it fits better), its win rate is only 49%. Conqueror is at 52%. Anyway, Darius sounds way better with it than Yi. He's actually the best melee user of it that I can think of since he already packs so much damage if he gets on you.

Mordepool1 votes

Have the Slow resistance be always on if your playing a melee champ

Moody P1 votes

the best thing you could do for phase rush is take it out of that god awful sorcery tree

astralwit1 votes

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the best thing you could do for phase rush is take it out of that god awful sorcery tree

There are some synergies with the Nimbus Cloak, Celerity and even Waterwalking. I think it kind of fits. Where would you move it and what would you switch it with?

Phhase1 votes

It's perfect on Tahm Kench. You can drag someone REALLY far back.

PrinceOfStorms1 votes

I don't know if it's optimal on literally any champion right now

Vlad takes it every single game in every single matchup to the exclusion of all other runes. In fact it's probably the only viable rune on Vlad right now since it lets him maneuver around teamfights lategame and escape anyone without hard engage early.

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