We need you, the jungler, to help us instead of spending the entire game at your camps trying to sate your devourer when you don't even bother to go for dragon or rift walker and instead AFK farm. It is disgusting how junglers try to justify it when they need to participate in the team.
Slamurai Jack12 votesYeah right. If you guys are losing that hard before I even purchase my daggers, there's no way in hell I'm going to suddenly start playing around you.
Surr20plz5 votes[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:18:37.482+0000)
Yeah right. If you guys are losing that hard before I even purchase my daggers, there's no way in hell I'm going to suddenly start playing around you.
This.
La Barbotte4 votesthis + devourer jungler are carry junglers, not support junglers, so laners should adapt to them for bigger chance of winning that the opposite
ex a support jungler team comp could be :
jg (cc, teamfight and ganker, hes a supportive jungler)
great carry champion in top mid and adc that overall fit together
a carry jungler however you would be all dps and nothing much to protect the ''OP'' sated devourer
so somthing like this would be better
jg, needs to stack up and get items, but bring great dps
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laners should farm their lanes, dont try anything crazy and make sure yi gets fed, hes the biggest dps, while malphite will provide initiation, while lulu (*and janna) will be able to peel for master yi, while ezreal (*braum) gets great utility since 
and braums passive
(*based on who you pick)
so when you have a devourer jungler, your teamcomp shouldnt be focused around mid and adc, but more on him, specially in lower elos, because nothing makes them flame more than a fed master yi/ xin zao / jax etc that they cant kill becasue his team his peeling for him instead of blaming him for their own picks
Lord Boltrix2 votesOf course the problem is that at lower elos, everyone has an ego and still fervently believes that they alone can carry the game. That level of distrust in their teammates from the get-go is very likely to ensure they are unlikely to adapt their champions to a team comp, so they face the problem of either having no way to support and/or no way to stop a devourer jungler.
Burnt Light1 votes[{quoted}](name=Lord Boltrix,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-07T20:25:22.634+0000)
Of course the problem is that at lower elos, everyone has an ego and still fervently believes that they alone can carry the game. That level of distrust in their teammates from the get-go is very likely to ensure they are unlikely to adapt their champions to a team comp, so they face the problem of either having no way to support and/or no way to stop a devourer jungler.
This is definitely a problem at low elo. And it's also simple minded stubborness. I asked an Aatrox to either start ganking for the losing lanes or simply build warrior instead of leaving them to fend for themselves, and the Aatrox plainly refused and started dying and getting stuck at 10 stacks cause his jungle got overrun. Another thing also is the fact I find myself ganking more than the jungler that is AFK farming devourer and even have gotten more dragons since for some reason in low elo junglers are afraid to touch the dragon despite it being free.
La Barbotte1 votesdamn, aatrox pre six ganks are strong too lol, he got CC and good sustain so he can solo drag and herald.... i see now hahaha, and warrior wouldnt be the best option if hes not devourer, he better go cinderhulk and get juggernaut items like something like this
so he wont die in teamfight (but devourer is 200 times better)
EcchiOtakuTM2 votesLol why can't I like this more? xD
Burnt Light1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-03-07T03:18:37.482+0000)
Yeah right. If you guys are losing that hard before I even purchase my daggers, there's no way in hell I'm going to suddenly start playing around you.
Fine then have fun with fed team cause you failed to participate while you were at wolves just barely getting 5 stacks in your devourer when you could have built warrior instead or gank for once in your life to get the stack you wanted.
Slamurai Jack1 votesIf the game is already out of control before I even start getting components for my jungle item, I'm definitely not getting any kills from ganking for you shitters. If you can't even keep it under control for 5 minutes, my ganks aren't going to make a fucking difference. I get it, blaming the jungler is cool but seriously, stop feeding.
Burnt Light1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=000400020000,timestamp=2016-03-08T01:10:16.484+0000)
If the game is already out of control before I even start getting components for my jungle item, I'm definitely not getting any kills from ganking for you shitters. If you can't even keep it under control for 5 minutes, my ganks aren't going to make a fucking difference. I get it, blaming the jungler is cool but seriously, stop feeding.
Then you're not going to get any chance of kills, period. And who said it was 5 minutes? I know for a fact that unless you're soloing dragon and rift walker in early game, you are not sating your devourer in under five minutes and at the most getting about 3 - 5 stacks assuming your jungle is not getting invaded by the team that is ahead, which doesn't even have to be fed mind you but winning in objectives cause of variety of reasons such as a champion being countered, roaming , or simply dominating. And let's not forget the laners that you call shitters can also abandon your ass if you decide to not play with the team. Think you can handle 4 people ahead in objectives in your jungle? Nope, you can't. And the team you abandon certainly will not help you just so you can go back to AFK jungle farming. And actually, ganks do make a difference. Did I say junglers are to blame? No. The ones that AFK farm? Definitely.
Slamurai Jack1 votesIf you guys have lost control of the game before I even get my daggers, then switching to longswords or a ruby crystal isn't going to make a difference. Once I've spent early gold on daggers, I'm committed to buying that devourer. If you've lost control of the game before I'm committed to Devourer, then nothing I buy is gonna matter.
Burnt Light1 votes[{quoted}](name=Slamurai Jack,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=00040002000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-08T01:19:09.583+0000)
If you guys have lost control of the game before I even get my daggers, then switching to longswords or a ruby crystal isn't going to make a difference. Once I've spent early gold on daggers, I'm committed to buying that devourer. If you've lost control of the game before I'm committed to Devourer, then nothing I buy is gonna matter.
Not true. Cause in the long run, the likely chance of you getting your devourer sated against a dominating team pushing is slim where warrior would be more suffice OR getting sated through proper ganks, which at that point, does include you into the team play. If you're just going to leave your team mates to die thinking you'll carry the game to victory, then that's foolish and a toxic attitude. I rather have a jungler present with warrior than one dying at wolves cause he refused to gank and get stacks with devourer.
AlwaysByMySide2 votes[{quoted}](name=Burnt Light,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2016-03-08T01:04:27.057+0000)
Fine then have fun with fed team cause you failed to participate while you were at wolves just barely getting 5 stacks in your devourer when you could have built warrior instead or gank for once in your life to get the stack you wanted.
You could also just stop fucking feeding.
I'm not going to buy a shitty early game item like Warrior on Yi and get rid of my ability to scale just because you fucks are playing poorly. A warrior Yi is garbo as the game goes on, and not great early compared to an actual early game jungler.
Burnt Light1 votes[{quoted}](name=Memeglaive Garen,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=UEpH8y6W,comment-id=000400020001,timestamp=2016-03-08T02:05:13.367+0000)
You could also just stop fucking feeding.
I'm not going to buy a shitty early game item like Warrior on Yi and get rid of my ability to scale just because you fucks are playing poorly. A warrior Yi is garbo as the game goes on, and not great early compared to an actual early game jungler.
You won't even be able to scale because unless you are getting dragons and rift walkers in early game, you sitting at jungle throughout the entire game with no ganking ability whatsoever will prove to be ineffective cause you won't scale when the dominating enemy team invades your jungle while the rest of us try to work together to keep objectives from being taken which you should have participated in, but no, you decided to AFK farm and make it into a 4 v 5. Just because you thought you can carry by getting, what, 5 stacks on your devourer? No, either start ganking and get your stacks that way for the losing team or build something else. Team play, not solo carry.
Saianna4 votesIf your team is behind before jungler gets devourer (2450g), then sorry mate you'll lose anyways.
The Deckowner3 votessome junglers are better with devourer even when not sated, such as ww.
Grashnim3 votesYou can gank with devourer, it add stacks for kills/assists. Must be rough in bronze.
hOrnn2 votesfirst problem, you came to gd with logic.
Cherysse2 votes#RemoveToxicDevourer
No flash no life2 votesTeam's getting behind? Fk I gotta finish my devourer asap before it gets to the point where I can't carry.
Papa Slothy1 votesunless ur master yi or Xin xhao
either way u can go full tank and destroy
MunchCrunchLunch1 votesbro. some champions. you gotta go devoure with. and it allows you. to go tanky. and do sustained damage. which is idea for playing from behind. being tanky. I go devoure every single time on champs that devoure is the go to item for.
and if you're losing before the 7-9 minute mark (which is when i get devoure) your just bad and the only option i have is carry a game myself. with the other team mates that are doing well.
LadyRenly1 votesbut if i dont build devourer, how will i 1v5 carry us
Searno1 votesShyvana doesn't have this problem :)
Supreme Senpai691 votesI had a freaking Aatrox D/C for the first 15 minutes of the game then try to buy devourer when he came back.