Tanks should counter the overbearing amount of mages and assassins in most games currently.
ADCs are ment to melt tanks.
No ADCs in games so why aren’t tanks op right now.
Hmm think about that for a minute :)
FireDrizzle25 votesBecause tanks dont counter assassins currenty, conqueror makes them weak vs fighters, and the overall damage is so high that tankyness is weak.
Reworks Are OP3 votesBecause tanks dont counter assassins currenty, conqueror makes them weak vs fighters, and the overall damage is so high that tankyness is weak.
I know conquer is op I was being saracastic because in this meta tanks should be op if that keystone didn’t exist :(
FireDrizzle4 votesIts not just conqueror imo.
Reworks Are OP3 votesYour right it’s riot games not wanting tanks in the game even when some people find it fun
MrFawknSunshine1 votesits not that riot dont want tanks, when there was stronger tanks, ( cinderhulk meta ) and maokai pick/ban top lane. people cried and cried that games werent fun, fights took to long, blah blah blah.
so that with the rework of runes/masteries and the big balance change it made we are where we are . if adcs werent so bad then there might be a reason for tanks. but considering that bruiser/juggernauts have nearly the same HP levels as a full tank build with damage out put ( not quite the armor/mr stats nor cc ) adcs cant deal with them , they die to assassins easily and enchanters got shitted on as supports
take all that in a whole we have shit tanks and shit adcs for the most part.
sadly the best tank in game in singed currently but he builds pure ap nearly.
Hyquiem1 votesWhen maokai is op... every fight lasts for 10 minutes,,
HaIlMonitor2 votesHow did the fights last too long when Moa was just rushing down your ADC and would blow them up. Tanks were hated because they naturally did more damage then fighters, but also got more tanky. They could run down anyone at that time and only got countered by each other.
Are tanks currently weak??? Yes, I agree with that, but they shouldnt be the whole meta. If we only have three viable classes as in three tanks, a peeler, and a tank buster (adc) the balance is wrong.
HàrrowR2 votesits not that riot dont want tanks, when there was stronger tanks, ( cinderhulk meta ) and maokai pick/ban top lane. people cried and cried that games werent fun, fights took to long, blah blah blah.
so that with the rework of runes/masteries and the big balance change it made we are where we are . if adcs werent so bad then there might be a reason for tanks. but considering that bruiser/juggernauts have nearly the same HP levels as a full tank build with damage out put ( not quite the armor/mr stats nor cc ) adcs cant deal with them , they die to assassins easily and enchanters got shitted on as supports
take all that in a whole we have shit tanks and shit adcs for the most part.
sadly the best tank in game in singed currently but he builds pure ap nearly.
Honestly i dont mind if tanks are strong just if adcs are strong awell to counter them,ive played games where we couldnt kill Maokai 4v1,no one wants that back either
MrFawknSunshine1 votesi know someone who does... oh wait thats me a maokai otp for 3 seasons
god i miss old maokai
but i underststand
AirKingNeo4 votesbut barely any meta top laners take conqueror
DuskDaUmbreon11 votesBecause who do they have to protect?
Infernape1 votesTheir LP?
Thefrostyviking1 votesCant protect their LP if there is no one to deliver it for them once they have been punched into the ground.
OtterlyLost9 votesBecause where are they supposed to go? Bruisers with conqueror are stronger than them in lane and currently scale better than them too because of it. And they cant duel or clear fast in the jungle where it's all about the scuttle crab.
ChaddyFantome1 votesBecause where are they supposed to go? Bruisers with conqueror are stronger than them in lane and currently scale better than them too because of it. And they cant duel or clear fast in the jungle where it's all about the scuttle crab.
Support role! only place left and tbh, it's where they are most balanced imho.
ZackTheWaffleMan5 votessame problem as top, bruisers with conqueror
AirKingNeo1 votesuhh tanks with grasp beat almost every top laner (cause conqueror is weaker in lane) any day
even fiora goes grasp
Thefrostyviking2 votesGame exists outside diamond x)
For most even Fiora goes conqueror into everything.
AirKingNeo1 votesNo one but you brought up diamond nor should we balance the game outside of diamond (heck, don't even balance around diamond 5).
https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Fiora/ 20% pickrate for Grasp
Thefrostyviking1 votesOne look at OP.GG is all i needed to know you got the entire thing with "fiora going grasp" from either diamond or higher up.
And strangely enough, conqueror is still the most picked keystone by a margin of 70% of all games even in diamond as shown by the very site you linked,......
How very peculiar, i could have sword you wrote something on the lines of :
uhh tanks with grasp beat almost every top laner (cause conqueror is weaker in lane) any day
even fiora goes grasp
Evidently the overwhelming majority of Fiora players, even in diamond, picks conqueror so it cant be weak no matter how you seek to claim it.
oh and if looking at master, challenger and one tricks in addition you´ll notice that despite fewer games played grasp has worse winrates in all 3 ranging from roughly 2-4%.
You sure you havent gotten conqueror and grasp confused for eachother?
OtterlyLost1 votesuhh tanks with grasp beat almost every top laner (cause conqueror is weaker in lane) any day
even fiora goes grasp
http://na.op.gg/champion/fiora/statistics/top
That looks like a weird colored Grasp of the Undying down there on these Plat + Korean players.
AirKingNeo1 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Fiora/
20% grasp pick rate
OtterlyLost1 voteshttps://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/diamond/plus/champion/Fiora/
20% grasp pick rate
Vs a 70% conqueror pick rate?
UnknownTerritory3 votesBecause...Circlejerk
remakoro3 votesDmg ramps up much faster and harder than defense. Runes provide much less defensive options than defensive. Resolve has 2!!! TWO！II！ 二！Runes that actually defending you vs something. One of which does almost nothing for tanks in somewhat prolonged fight. (bone plating. 120 dmg blocked total at lvl 18? sounds almost like a joke) Well there is a third one. Overgrowth. But its a noob trap or something similar. Its clearly is a LOT weaker than ANY offensive rune.
Also there is Conqueror + absolutely zero reason to pick tanks in the first place. Its much easier to just oneshot someone than do something else.
Bob the Toastr3 votesBecause assassins do enough damage to kill tanks because they keep buffing damage and lowering resistances.
Hensetsu2 votes1: 
, Good luck buying armor vs that.
2: So much mobility that there are honestly too many carries to zone out.
3: Squishes die before you can save them half the time
4: An abundance of %HP damage.
5: Resolve tree could be a bit stronger. It's not bad imo, but it needs some love.
6: Autofill Tank players : [cass-cry]
7: Good Tank players : [sg-poppy] (Good Tank players still make it work)
Subject 52 votesI play tank Pyke check my match history:
And Yasuo could still 3 hit me. It's pretty disgusting.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesNever understood why people play Pyke as a tank, tbh. He can't get bonus health, so his ability to tank is extremely limited.
Imo he is better just building AD and lethality to kill as fast as possible with ult.
Jerry SeinfeId1 votesYou're better off actually mixing both. I usually build duskblade and GA core but aside from that i'l build anything that makes me deal more damage while also living longer aka every HP/Resistance tank item and bruiser or assassin item.
Imo pyke is more of a diver rather than an assassin. but his passive stops him from actually being one. (but then again divers pretty much are assassins with the only difference being that they have no ticket out, and get a bit beefier)
Subject 51 votesNever understood why people play Pyke as a tank, tbh. He can't get bonus health, so his ability to tank is extremely limited.
Imo he is better just building AD and lethality to kill as fast as possible with ult.
He gets bonus AD with HP items, but the resistances is what matters not the HP. Though his ultimate sucks with AD scaling, the base damage is good enough with prediction.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesI know that he gets AD for HP, but the ratio is simply not worth it. And his ult scales pretty well with AD, you can get a pretty high threshold for your execute so a single hit is sometimes already enough to kill the enemy.
Subject 51 votesI know that he gets AD for HP, but the ratio is simply not worth it. And his ult scales pretty well with AD, you can get a pretty high threshold for your execute so a single hit is sometimes already enough to kill the enemy.
It scales like a 0.5 AD that's beyond trash when others scales 1.5 or more. (80% removing his base stats. Misleading is misleading.)
AirKingNeo2 votesbecause tanks are strongest when adcs are strongest
Meep Man1 votesBecause Bruisers can ALSO melt Tanks.
deadlychuck1 votesHaha, because if you're AD and design to blow up an ADC, then you can still melt tanks with auto attacks like an ADC normally does.
Hyquiem1 votesDude don’t even count mages with the amount of mobility going around.
AirKingNeo3 votesmages are the strongest class bot lane rn
PICKLE RICK REEE1 votesbecause fighters are OP. FIghters can really kill anything when ahead.
Elon is Bae1 votesThat's honestly one of the reasons ADCs are weak... There are no tanks to bring down, because they get fucked by bruisers.
RyzeTheSmurfMage1 votesTop 10 Question Riot Scientists can't answer
Ulquiorra01231 votesBecause MR is a stat that literally doesn't mean anything with pen being so accessible, they don't counter assassins right now because they are garbage, and bruisers just destroy them thanks to conqueror... There are other things in the game than adcs and tanks that can damage tanks, you do know this right?
Bisaknosp1 votesbecause bruisers juggernauts and so on dunno what else there is can wreck tanks easily with conqueror and all the other true damage being around they can also get pretty hard to kill with steraks, ga, titanic and so on so they basically build tank and damage at the same time so they are semi tanks with adc damage
FridgeD1 votesbecause the balance team doesnt want braindead unkillable, endless cc machines to be viable. too bad for you! you had 4 years times to play this dumb class, now fighter players have their window and you just complain.
SithesisLord1 votesnow fighter players have their window and you just complain.
TFW fighters were garbage pre-Conqueror.
Except for the fact they weren´t weak at all.
FridgeD1 votesyeah, fighters werent weak. then tanks were just completely op.
getting bullied out of lane by a maokai with grasp, to just get outscaled aswell.
what a fun time for fighters.
or loosing half your hp to fulltank seju or gragas, while being cced.
what a good time!
tanks being shit means, noone needs adcs. thats what i call a good meta. finally fighters, mages and assassines. champions with skill involved.
SithesisLord1 votesgetting bullied out of lane by a maokai with grasp, to just get outscaled aswell.
That was a Maokai problem, not a Grasp or a tank problem. Also getting outscaled by a Maokai as a fighter is flat out lying. Outscaled in utility and teamfight potential sure, but not in murdering the back line or split-pushing.
or loosing half your hp to fulltank seju or gragas, while being cced.
Both have %Max HP damage.
tanks being shit means, noone needs adcs. thats what i call a good meta. finally fighters, mages and assassines. champions with skill involved.
Ah yes, the old 'hurr durr tanks are braindead' argument. Love me some lies for dinner.
FridgeD1 votes"Also getting outscaled by a Maokai as a fighter is flat out lying." "Outscaled in utility and teamfight potential sure" you noticed it yourself, right? you got ahead in lane and just forced fights around objs. gg! tanks meta in proplay for how long?
"Ah yes, the old 'hurr durr tanks are braindead' argument." give me 1 tank that needs skill to play and i give 2 fighters, who are harder to execute. "Love me some lies for dinner." pls keep lying to yourself, that playing tanks require any skill. esp in metas, where tanks were strong, it was a joke. oh look at me: me tank, me stupid base stats, me endless cc, me endless base dmg, me cant get caught. me cheap items.
fighters just earned this meta. and tanks players earned getting sliced by conquerer abusers.
Meteor Driz1 votesBecause they explode in 0.5 seconds from anyone on the other team without ever getting a shot off
