Lets see here...
AD auto attackers get Fervor of Battle AD crit users get Warlords Bloodlust AD burst users get Thunderlords Decree AD spellcasters get Deathfire Touch
AP burst get Thunderlords Decree AP dot users get Deathfire Touch
Not much choice for us mages :(
Zero Skill Tank44 votesBecause with a decent mastery it would be too easy for mages to abuse Zed's energy problems.
LF Annie29 votesi find stormraiders is also aimed at ap because its chunking activation function works well with burst mages.
BottleCapster4 votesand ad asssassins who get in close enough that the speed boost can be properly effective, and can use the slow resistance more effectively to clear the field after they go in :P
Dreadlocks15 votesI feel like the concept of this keystone is cool, but i don' think its good enough to be used versus others. Before its recent buffs, i've actually saw it as a keystone that could be tweaked to being a tier 5 mastery point. Kind of resembling a Phage passive.
You make a valid point sure, but just because something can be utilized, doesn't make it worth taking =[
-randomthought- Wonder if they could make a Keystone for mages that allows magic damage spells to be used on turrets, but have a cooldown of course. This would help mid mages push their objective turret, while the assassins they are fighting are off killing your bot lane. Again -randomthought- lol
LF Annie1 votesjust think how heim would be permabanned.
Wimbledofy1 voteshow would that make heim permabanned? His turrets already do damage anyways but it is very small. This keystone won't make him suddenly op. If he takes this mastery he won't have thunderlord's and the only dmg increase he ever gets in his kit from keystones is to turrets.
LF Annie3 votesimagine ulted heim rockets damaging towers "cringes at the thought of no towers by 20 mins"
Dedrius13 votesI would throw in Windspeaker's Blessing as more of an AP keystone since its very effective on champs like lulu and ori. But as an AP mid player I would also like some more keystones :D
Dreadlocks10 votesThey should scrap stormraiders for an AP keystone :)
Reworks Are OP16 votesI agree maybe make Deathfire touch more for dot mages and give us a siege aoe AP caster option keystone
Cowgirl Ed2 votes[{quoted}](name=We Rektum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-01-23T17:50:25.777+0000)
They should scrap stormraiders for an AP keystone :)
The fuck, stormraider's is the funniest mastery in the game! BTW to answering OP: AP users have spells, AD users focus more on autoattacks, that's it
Dreadlocks9 votesSo champions like Zed and Talon focus more on auto attacks? Hmm, the more yuh know. +1
Cowgirl Ed6 votes[{quoted}](name=We Rektum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2016-01-23T18:56:38.752+0000)
So champions like Zed and Talon focus more on auto attacks? Hmm, the more yuh know. +1
They do more than mages :)
Dreadlocks5 votesOh? :) 
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Cowgirl Ed2 votes[{quoted}](name=We Rektum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=00020001000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-23T18:59:42.767+0000)
Oh? :)
Lol? Diana is not a mage, other than TF who else uses autoattacks that frequently and is a mage?
Dreadlocks11 votes
Cowgirl Ed2 votes[{quoted}](name=We Rektum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=0002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-01-23T19:03:42.911+0000)
Last two not mages. Orianna uses them in lane and Azir is the other mage. That's it, 2 mages out of all of them. btw this discussion is pathetic we should stop who cares
Dreadlocks8 votesWell i mean, they are about as much mage/auto attack reliant as Zed and Talon :) I'd say my argument is as valid as yours <3
InHaruhiWeTrust1 votesazirs soldier aren't autos they are coded as spells and proc things like 
but not 
or even 
and . they are spells that cast at his attack speed rather than on CD like all other abilities.
Dreadlocks3 votesAnd that is why Azir doesn't benefit from attack speed.
...............
What o.O
DokiDokiTodoroki2 votesHis kit benefits from attack speed, but the actual passive on Nashors (you do know it has one, right?) is not proc'ed on sand soldiers. Also there's a reason why you don't build Nashors on Orianna. If you can't imagine Nashors as a good item on a mage, chances are that they're not auto attack reliant champions. The fact that mages use spells is why there's only 2 main keystones, because there are roughly two times of damage coming out of mages: burst and sustained/dot's. Meanwhile, we have: traditional ADC's (Tristana, Jinx, Lucian), caster ADC's (Ezreal, mid build Varus), AD fighters (Riven, Darius), and AD champs that rely on crit (Yasuo, Tryndamere). Of course Thunderlord's is so good right now that it's taken on basically every champ that isn't pure tank, so most of OP's list is irrelevant. Classifying Deathfire as both AD/AP because it has scaling for both is dumb. It's basically a "supposed to be for heavy poke/dot damage but had to be nerfed so no one actually wants it" mastery.
Ironclad Dragon6 votesEveryone forgets poor Stormraider.
Ipressbutton21 votesBecause it is bad
Rysophage5 votesBecause you have an item that takes you out of the game and gives you armor.
Reworks Are OP73 votesWhere is my cleanse ap item :(
Rysophage14 votesThe same place the AD hourglass is.
Sneakyy XD67 votesThe same place the AD hourglass is.
Does that mean mages can get a Maw for physical damage?
Nielarken15 votes
Oh snap we getting an ap death's dance too!
InHaruhiWeTrust12 votes
or an AP cd item than steals armor with abilities!
[slayer-pantheon-rainbows]
RyzeRework3 votesWhere is my cleanse ap item :(
hourglass is more effective then qss weres our ad burn item? weres our great ap amplifying item? roa serphs embrace? we dont get an ad item that is a aura that reduces mr we dont have an ad item that gives armor frozen mallet isnt anything compared to rylais
Doctor Leet11 votes[{quoted}](name=Godlike Jungle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=000100000003,timestamp=2016-01-23T21:19:42.056+0000)
hourglass is more effective then qss weres our ad burn item? weres our great ap amplifying item? roa serphs embrace? we dont get an ad item that is a aura that reduces mr we dont have an ad item that gives armor frozen mallet isnt anything compared to rylais
Wheres our %damage increaser? Wheres our Speed boost AP item? Wheres our tank AP items? (HP doesn't count.)
RyzeRework5 votes[{quoted}](name=Doctor Leet,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=0001000000030000,timestamp=2016-01-23T21:57:45.272+0000)
Wheres our %damage increaser? Wheres our Speed boost AP item? Wheres our tank AP items? (HP doesn't count.)
abyssal hourglass athenes? what do ad champions have? ill wait
Ratbert9 votesmblade, maw, wits,
RyzeRework1 votesmblade, maw, wits,
Which isn't optimal on most ad champions more brusier or assassians were every ap champion can buy almost any item and be viable even n ashors is viable on most ap champions and spell vamp is as well
Ratbert10 votesAh yes, every ap can build nashor's abyssal or spellvamp. You need better bait.
RyzeRework1 votesAh yes, every ap can build nashor's abyssal or spellvamp. You need better bait.
Every ap champion can build abyssal and spell vamp Berjgson builds spell vamp on some of his champions and I didnt sat every ap champion I said a lot can be great with n ashors 80 ap 20 percent cdr and great passive but just like not every as champion builds trinity force or shiv or phantom dancer not every adc builds botrk ap champions can build almost every ap item and be effective
Ratbert8 votesEvery ad can build the items up there too. They all give great stats and passive/active effects.
Only because there's like 4 good ap items that you need to build. Everything else is luxury or niche. As opposed to ad champs who have too many good choices so that even slightly subpar ones are left to rot. Not to mention people are so afraid of trying new things because it means you tend to lose. Every ad champ can use items that give ad, as or cdr.
InHaruhiWeTrust5 votes
all of these offer defense and offence for ad champs.
The Bearded Bard4 votesLifesteal, a lot more armor pen options than we have mpen options, better cooldown options, autoattacks and spells that do damage as opposed to just spells, hexdrinker, QSS, a support to hold your damn hand through laning phase, crits, cheaper and easier to apply grievous wounds item, attack speed, more keystone mastery options, aaaand better autoattack animations.
But yeah we get zhonyas so it's fair.
RyzeRework1 votes[{quoted}](name=The Bearded Bard,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LwvNLpJs,comment-id=000100000003000000000001,timestamp=2016-01-24T02:32:39.931+0000)
Lifesteal, a lot more armor pen options than we have mpen options, better cooldown options, autoattacks and spells that do damage as opposed to just spells, hexdrinker, QSS, a support to hold your damn hand through laning phase, crits, cheaper and easier to apply grievous wounds item, attack speed, more keystone mastery options, aaaand better autoattack animations.
But yeah we get zhonyas so it's fair.
You have 2 mpen options void staff os better then last whisper lifesteal doesn't matter whrn a mage can 100/0 you and masteries scale better then ap ap literally scales better then ad utility and defensive items that ad champions dont have ect
The Bearded Bard6 votesWe have voidstaff, boots, and liandries. The boots are super not worth it right now and I personally almost always go with cdr boots nowadays. Liandries is only good on a select few mages. I'm not gonna be building Liandries on Leblanc or any other burst mage/assassin.
The rest of that was pretty unintelligible tbh. Should probably invest in some sentence structure or something. I think you said something about lifesteal not mattering (which I respond by laughing out loud) and ap scaling better than AD which is a straight up lie.
Dengeden7 votesTechnically, QSS is neither AD nor AP :]
Dar Raksada15 votesTechnically, QSS is neither AD nor AP :]
it builds into mercurial scimitar though, which is the end tier item you should be looking at.
1Maza3 votesWhy do AP champions get an item that makes them invinsible and AD champions don't?
Romans VI XXIII15 votesWhy do AD champs get items that removes CC and AP doesn't?
