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I would like an alternate game mode where it reverts league to patch 4.20

Better Jungler·12/1/2018, 4:04:50 AM·40 votes·12,987 views

AP mids were oneshotting literally everyone with DFG https://youtu.be/Dhn_Qr0YW9w?t=47

Fiora ult would basically 1 v 5 every game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiqTjd3U3rI

Janna made her team unkillable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkrPC9RnrlY

Warwick would literally one shot people with his ult https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6WP1URkzCw

multiple stuns were point and click (taric, Urgot, Warwick, Sion) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z9rFYnJU6g

Bans were 3 per team. 6 total.

I'm not saying the games perfect now.. but it never has been perfect. the playerbase just adapts to what's broken, and tries to say the old days were better. They were never better. Twisted fate in the beta of this game could teleport anywhere he wanted and his ult was a global SLOW that provided vision. HIS E WAS HIS TELEPORT.

Nostalgia glasses make you think old things were better, but they weren't. We enjoyed them more because they were newer. We were fresh to the game, so things were new and unexpected. Maybe the games not getting worse, but we're getting tired of playing it? I personally have been playing this game for 8 years now, and Im not surprised by anything in games anymore. I'm at the point where I know whats going to kill me, I know what enemies are going to do. I know champions abilities, and their damage, I know how long zhonyas, GA, Trynd/Kayle Ult lasts.

Honestly the wierd little moments of imbalance are what keep the game interesting to me 8 years later. I dont think this game is dying. I think the playerbase that made it is getting older and the time we've put into it is starting to catch up to us.

I don't think Riot is out of options here either. A new map for normal/draft queue would spice things up. A permanent PVE mode would give us something to do between pvp matches. More Rotating game modes (where have they been?). I think these are all options that would reinvigorate our interest in the game, lessen the hate threads on boards, and extend the lifespan of this game for it's older audiences.

Last thought on this matter.. With all the world building they're doing, introducing us to the Vestayan, creating a world map, completely rewriting everyones lore, it'd be a mistake to not explore new areas for potential maps and game modes.

120 Comments

ModCaptainMårvelous12/1/2018, 8:40:24 AM11 votes

I think the other thing is that the longer the game goes on, the higher average skill gets. Plus this applies to Riot as well. For all the balance errors they make, nothing compares to certain scenarios.

My all-time favorite was someone asking Rioters at a panel what they'd do about AP Yi back in Season 3/4 or so. They chuckled and were confused. Why would he be a problem?

Then Yi started getting picked in pro games and could completely decide a game with R+Q spam. Suffice to say, AP Yi didn't live much longer after that.

Love Anastasia12/1/2018, 1:47:17 PM11 votes

You wanna know the difference? Then you had to be fed to do that kind of things.

You see a Twisted Fate one shotting 1 adc using deathfire grasp. Now, he can do it without use deathfire grasp or being even fed. Even tanks like Rammus can do it. That's the difference.

https://youtu.be/sGRXIAh41IA?t=8961

Now compare this teamfight with any teamfight at this patch.

Zertryx12/1/2018, 5:34:14 AM9 votes

The thing is, sure there was gimmick stuff and op stuff back then too, but IT WAS STILL FUN, win or lose most the time it was enjoyable to play the game there wasn't anyone that you REALLY dreaded playing against other than a select few and they were banned within the 6 bans.

But now the games so overloaded that there is like 20+ champs that just make this game feel unfun and they are either in the game or banned constantly but no matter what you gonna face these very oppressive high value characters EVERY game making the game so sloggish that even Winning feels awful because its such a struggle to do anything with how fast everything dies. This is why people are being so much more vocal the power creep has gotten ridiculous.

Häßlich12/1/2018, 11:35:29 AM9 votes

I think Season 3 was my favorite era, tbh.

As for players leave the game because they get older, that's nonsense. Every time I leave games it's because the devs do some bonehead sh*t that I won't accept. I took two years off of League because of that. I quit Star Wars: TOR because of it (and their awful customer service). I took a long break from ESO because of it. I quit WoW because of it (when MoP came out). WoW is actually a really great example. I still play on private servers from time to time, because BC/Wrath/Cata were dope. I tried to give them another chance with WoD, but it was the same dumpster fire that MoP was, so they only got one month of sub from me since the month that MoP came out. I'll go back to retail when they bring back skill trees, reforging, item/build diversity, flying that doesn't require me to tromp through another expansion of copy/paste fetch-it quests and lame achievements, etc.

The main problem I see with modern League is that Riot keeps trying for the next big gimmick. What flashy nonsense can they push out to desperately hang on to the players and eSports attention that they have left? By the same token, their social engineering and "afraid to offend anyone" mentality are major factors in why people leave too. People play games to relax, have fun, be competitive, make friends, or a whole bunch of other reasons... but not to be nannied. That's not welcome. To say that people lose interest just because they age is to be willfully ignorant of the real reasons they step away.

Illuminatra12/1/2018, 5:03:02 AM8 votes

i dont think you played much back in season4,

you see the only shit we saw perma banned was kassadin.

now however?

over 15 champs need to be banned because if picked, its just going to make whoever that champ is going vs completely depressed AND it warps the game around that specific champion.

irelia/akali/urgot/aatrox/graves/zoe/camille/kayn/swain/multiple others.

this game has gotten worse and it was much better before.

dont deny that please

MLDzXnRRR12/1/2018, 12:36:50 PM7 votes

The game was WAAAY more fun to play... It doesn't matter, if it was just as unbalanced as it is today. You can watch 5-10 minutes of a replay or e-sports game today and tell who will win. It's predictable and boring.

Saianna12/1/2018, 3:06:36 PM6 votes

Back then the overall feel of the game we had was "it's pretty balanced". Fiora, WW, Janna and other abominations were kinda broken but, it's not like we wanted them to be broken. it was rito doing their stupid shit.

By the way sayng HURR BACK THEN WE HAD ONLY 3 BANS HEHEHE XDDdddXDXxddd. It was 4 fucking years ago -.- On top of that we only received more bans because their blatant favourizing and overbuffing started to be a thing back then.

420 grams12/1/2018, 5:16:30 AM6 votes

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Hügö12/1/2018, 11:20:19 AM5 votes

Maybe the games not getting worse, but we're getting tired of playing it? I personally have been playing this game for 8 years now, and Im not surprised by anything in games anymore.

Can you guys already stop trying to say that people get tired of games because they get older? I play the same game for nearly 13 years now, and I am not playing it because it changes so much the game stagnates for like 5 years now but it doesn't change that the game is fun. Games mostly lose players because the devs do shit work. The last time the decs tried to put a shitty update on it resulted in a big player riot and the lost players to it, in the end some devs lost their jobs because of it. The game will hit 16 years soon and it is still a big game which breaks records in gaming history like nearly every half year.

Beacon Academy12/1/2018, 1:50:41 PM5 votes

Season 5 after DFG was gone, tanks were tanky, and runes/masteries were nice bonuses to help you out are what I want to see again.

P.S. If a game is fun, people will play it whether there are updates or not. Warcraft III for example as well as oldschool Runescape apparently. Its been around a decade and I still go back to WC3 Custom maps because they're fun.

If Riot actually did balance, minor changes, focused heavily on quality of life updates, and just generally let players do what players do to change the game up through strategies... I promise you that the game would be a lot more popular and most likely a lot less toxic than it is now.

Rıots Bad Client12/1/2018, 1:09:47 PM4 votes

and item 2004

3TWarrior12/1/2018, 2:17:47 PM3 votes

at the same time, ap mids only did that to one target

fiora had to be ridiculously fed to to take out a team, and even then they had to cluster together for her to hit more than one enemy with her ult

warwick could do a lot of damage, but his weakness was that he could never get in range

janna has always been good at defense? was she any better or worse other than that her offense was reduced repeatedly

point and clicks were not bad in the first place and usually had short range(among other trade-offs) unless they were an ultimate and rarely matched the range of their target; They were also a counter to mobile champions. There are very few of them left with Ryze being one of them common enough to remember

Beast Brawler12/1/2018, 4:00:43 PM3 votes

Lol I used to main old WW, he was not oneshotting people with his ultimate. He was doing up to half of their health with it and then using Q as soon as the animation ended, which put them lower. The thing is, I believe it was coded as auto attacks, because red smite would work with it and so would cleaver, and half of the ults were used in tandem with ignite, so take it all with a grain of salt. I also loved to build lifesteal and just never die, I miss old WW. New WW feels kinda clunky at times, though he looks much better.

Śhunpo12/1/2018, 8:07:14 PM2 votes

Season 4 onwards be like:

*Everyone oneshots each other, not just DFG users

*Janna still makes her team nye-unkillable

*Champs with CC abilities now have their entire kit as CC and/or the duration(s) on said CC are excruciatingly long

*Irelia ult literally 1v5s

*Akali has "obscure" so she can dodge tower aggro

*Bruisers are now just touch-of-death sticky champs

*Tanks are no longer tanks, they're slightly tankier bruisers with more CC

*Phantom Dancer is broken, thereby Yasuo is broken.

*Zoe exists. Camille exists.

*Dominion got removed which killed off the casual playerbase

*You're now incredibly reliant on your team to the point where you can no longer really solo carry due to the general mechanics within this game implemented after season 5. Good luck winning when Riot wants you to be held back by inters, flamers, throwers and generally bad players who abuse meta to win which thereby makes them bad.

*Oh yeah, and assassins are no longer assassins. Divers, mages and some ADCs are better assassins than most assassins omegaLUL.

*Fiora now deals 127% of your max HP as true damage with her ult and a further 40%+ with her passive. Oh, and now her parry blocks ALL damage in the game besides towers, cause why the fuck not...AND IT STUNS IF YOU PARRY CC XD

ALSO OLD KAT EXISTED....BOTH VERSIONS Katarina <---- not this meth-head with brain damage