Please don't buy the new Blitzcrank skin...

Better Jungler·Nov 6, 2017·264 votes·9,717 views

The skin itself looks awesome, but the animations are pretty terrible. I'm never one to "shitpost" but this needs to be addressed before it becomes the norm. If we support this product at the 1350 price they will be asking, we'll be saying that this is the quality of skin worth 1350. It is a general agreement among the vast majority that his walking animation is hard to look at, and ruins the better aspects of the skin (beautiful hook design.)

Of course there will be a lot of people still buying it, but if a good chunk of us refuse to buy it, they should see from the sales data that there was an issue somewhere.

I don't want this to be a "F**K RIOT" post. I just think we need to show our concern with the way they've been trending over the last couple months in terms of skins.

169 Comments

Jimmy RustlesNov 6, 201760 votes

I was ready to buy it the moment the splash art was released

Then walk animation happened, and now I'm not

OwynNov 7, 201738 votes

wait... people actually buy skins not just for splashes but for something more? [sg-janna]

OnanThaManNov 6, 201726 votes

I disagree with the way they've been running the game as of late. I.E. choosing worlds over community and not doing Halloween. So i'm not buying anything from them for the foreseeable future.

Better JunglerNov 6, 201730 votes

Worlds is only from september to october. Its also one of the biggest ways they make money allowing Riot to keep the game running. They have to focus on the professional side of the game because those are the best players, with the biggest audience to promote their game. The rest of the year they do a really good job of focusing on the community.

Not doing anything for Halloween was a bit annoying though.

ProzzakNov 6, 201727 votes

They are a big enough company that they should be able to do both.

Skins ProjectNov 6, 201710 votes

Money≠resources

MyozthirirnNov 7, 20179 votes

Money ≠ Spending Money = Resources

Skins ProjectNov 7, 20175 votes

That's literally my point, just having money doesn't mean they have resources, unless you want them to hire half assed people in which we get "OMFG DIS RITOER SO BAD BLA BLA BLA"

SoryInAdvanceNov 7, 20175 votes

Or they could just hire good employees with the money?? What the heck are you on about?

Skins ProjectNov 7, 20174 votes

It's not always that easy to find good employees... & Don't they also have to be concerned about tax brackets?

SoryInAdvanceNov 7, 20172 votes

Dude, it's riot games...if they put up a job opening people will flock. Then you look at their programming experience or art portfolios or whatever they need to see. Really, it is that easy to find good employees.

JivvieNov 7, 20171 votes

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Dude, it's riot games...if they put up a job opening people will flock. Then you look at their programming experience or art portfolios or whatever they need to see. Really, it is that easy to find good employees.

the problem with this is... they don't want people like that....

I don't think anyone on the level you are speaking would want to be a part of Riot games. I mean.. come on..

SoryInAdvanceNov 7, 20172 votes

Have you ever had an interview ever? Every one that ever applies for a job provides experience. I just recently got a job with a software company for my first co-op and I even provided experience, even though I'm only a sophomore in college and have very little. For people to even apply to get into an art program in college, they have to send a portfolio of things they've done. There will not be a single person considered for this job without having some experience in some sort of relating field before hand.

TeslynNov 7, 20171 votes

The point was .. low quality work they are still asking for 1350 for the skins. if they lowered the price to the 975rp the quality would make sense. looking at the actual skin i would say i wont buy this thing. it is too junky for the cost of the skin. this skin has a 750rp theme to it.

just an FYI Faker has only used 1 skin ever in competitive play. just be like Faker for awhile to make a point.

Skins ProjectNov 8, 20171 votes

That's not what people are saying tho?

They're saying they want riot to do HARROWING/Halloween and WORLDS stuff all at once.

TeslynNov 8, 20172 votes

you need to pump your brakes when you come at me like that. I am certified in Life Cycle Logistics and i understand the complexity of managing multiple projects.

Here is the reality. 'Riot' created the schedule for the Harrowing. they put a date for worlds. Riot has officially said Harrowing is when they tell us the Harrowing is. Which is complete crap. Anyone with a calendar or who can realize the shape of the moon if we are going off that kinda cycle, can realize that Riot drops the ball often on times and dates.

They have been more focused on their LCS than the community that supports them.

Starting my game play of league in Season 2 i saw all the odd changes they did.
they pushed things up then pushed them back. they constantly missed deadlines of expectations. they dont even say when things are suppose to be done because they miss deadlines often.. Sometimes they say something and flat out dont deliver. I dont know the inner workings of the company so i dont know what the management actually says. what i can see from the outside is neglect on things that Riot has said in the past and then the following year they contradict themselves.

Some players dont watch worlds.
Some players dont do Harrowing or read lore.

if they want to ignore a part of their player base... players will move on. we grow up and we move on. i have seen the rise and fall of a good number of games. Some games are just a shell of their former self.

Riot has put lots of investment in worlds. Its what they did.

I like the Halloween. it doesnt take forever to design a skin and slap it on a champion. i am not saying i can do it quickly, but these people do it for a living and they have more resources than i have, so over time they get very quick at it.

i have seen actual artists at work. when they doodle it seems effortlessly done. and the work is beyond my most skilled attempts.

i prefer Halloween over Christmas. all these snow skins seem out of place globally unless we are comfortable with a Sudo pagan holiday with a splash of Christianity. Halloween is a celebration of conquering our fears and becoming the image of the demons that once haunted our civilization to show that as a culture we are no longer afraid. with Christmas on the other hand that is just lie on top of lie and an excuse to eat food.
Santa was originally Green for god sakes.. the Coca cola company changed him red to match their brand colors. People just went with it.

Those elves will never unionize because i am sure those reindeer dont mind turning elves to poop through natural bodily processes as they consume their magical flesh. o so tasty flesh.

i cant tell you how amazing it is to eat magical creatures.

Have you ever had unicorn. It tastes like a rainbow fart. it is completely melting in your mouth kinda thing. and dont get me started on leprechaun. have you ever eaten a real leprechaun.. seriously screw their gold. leprechaun flesh is amazing. They know they are tasty too. thats why they have so much gold to bribe people.

it all started one day where i thought i found a homeless midget was digging next to a tree in my yard. i was able to creep up on the little guy and wack him with a shovel. Now i know what you are thinking.. what do you do with the body. i thought of that because the midget had already dug a hole. less effort. so.. while the body was still warm i figured why not. one thing led to another and to end that part of the story he didnt taste too good, but made great fertilizer. then the following year i saw another thing i perceived to be a little person digging in someone's else yard. I figured to myself 'why stop now, you already have the taste for midget.' so i was able to wound that little guy with a rock that was readily at my feet. He was staggering and i was able to overcome the little guy.

This is when he offered me gold. i believe the exact words where 'ow dear god!! stop biting me!! i will give you anything!! take my league account, its Gold V!!'

i realized how this one tasted better than the last. as if this one washed and he smelt of exotic flowers. this intrigued me and i didnt know what to do. I was torn between my thirst for midget blood and to keep this rare creature alive out of respect for the mythical creatures of this world. I was about to get up but a bead of sweat from the tussle had formed on my brow and it rolled down my face. As it traveled down my face and passed through a patch of leprechaun blood that had splattered on my cheek. this magical bead of sweat continued on into my mouth. Right before i released my grasp on one of Gods mysteries i had a moment. the salt from my sweat brought out all new flavors that i had never experienced before. That night as i thanked god for all his tasty creatures i asked for forgiveness of my blood driven thirst for his most tasty creatures. i have all, but hunted them to extinction.
Living in the Amazon for 15 years studying the secrets of the Kabudo tribe i had learned the habits of the leprechaun. Seems this tribe worshiped these little creatures and considered them gods. They studied them as best they could and began to mimic the habits of these creatures.
There is a unique sound that can attract them that they cannot resist. it involves the violently shaking of a Teemo player. the sounds they make that roughly sound like 'What are you doing in my room.. o dear god NOOOOO!! MOMMMM help!!!' this immediately will attract the leprechauns.
mainly because they are voyeurs and if you wanna know why Jesus knows what you do in your room alone, its because a leprechaun is watching. They trade the souls of the people they watch for access into heaven and to purify their souls. this is where the flavor comes from. The innocent freshly cleaned soul.
So basically that's why christmas is dumb and Halloween is better.

ElikainNov 7, 20172 votes

Only a child that doesn't know how a company works would really complain about this. An entire season is almost dedicated to us, our balance and only a month or two at best for pro scene. The moment i hear "Rito, you're not paying attention to me again!!!! WAAAAAAH", i'm just reminded of those bratty children who were never set straight on how to/not to behave.

Better JunglerNov 7, 20172 votes

Or a person with a basic understanding of how businesses work. (one term from my bachelors in business management:P)

This isnt about attention. This is about removing the idea its ok for Riot to release sub-par skins.

Not everyone that complains about something is "whining." I notice you're trying to use age here as some form of insult by saying "Kid" and "Child" a lot. You're transparent my dude. I guarantee you're no older than 24, and based on your "holier than thou" attitude, I'd place you at the 19-20 years old mark. Making you one or two years shy of being an actual, legally defined "child"

ElikainNov 7, 20171 votes

I don't know how your Murrica (or some other country considers as "adult"), but mine does so at 18. And i'm 25. My attitude is like this because boards are either populated by children who want to cry about everything that comes out that isn't to their liking or you have stupid people who are adults but actually don't bother writing an argument and just want an easy way to get upvotes.

Acting like a brat isn't getting your point across even if you can get upvotes. Upvotes mean jack shit. If you're here farming internet points, you're an idiot. At least be reasonable when you think about commenting and i bet majority of the people who have a working braincell won't have a problem with a legitimate complaint and wouldn't mind joining in a discussion at hand.

Better JunglerNov 8, 20172 votes

Yes because its much less childish to go onto the post and blindly call everyone supporting it children/kids/young/immature etc. Acting like a brat is exactly what you're doing right now. You're 25 and you act like this? Someone messed up somewhere along the lines:P

My argument against this skin is based on the basic principles of business. If the customer isn't happy with the product, they shouldnt support the product in question.

Your argument against mine is "THESE CHILDREN ARE WHINING ABOUT SKINS"

Hypocrite much? Grow up.

Funkin DunkinNov 7, 20173 votes

I haven't bought anything from them in over a year. Fed up with their lack of community respect.

rtbf225618241Nov 6, 20177 votes

Sadly, if we won't buy this skin, Asia will. And it'll be REALLY popular in Asia.

ModKnightsKemplarNov 6, 20173 votes

What makes you think so? They might have the same issues with it that we do.

rtbf225618241Nov 6, 20174 votes

Well marketing and information control is a big deal in Asia and i REALLY don't mean to be an asshole but there are so many of them there that our little fraction on the Boards will not influence much. We are a loud minority after all but we are normally educated enough to make sound and solid arguments.

Doesn't mean Asians won't buy the skin. Ignorant people are literally in every corner of the world so this applies to every region by some margin but due to the population in Asia, it's more impactful there. The skins will profit Riot, no matter what. I guess they'd profit more with a new walking animation but like you, i have no clue what's their thought process behind it to keep it this way.

Skins ProjectNov 6, 201720 votes

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We are a loud minority after all but we are normally educated enough to make sound and solid arguments.

are normally educated enough to make sound and solid arguments.

Boi.

Are we on the same forums?

rtbf225618241Nov 7, 20172 votes

Keep your shitty jokes in M&G if you're not ready to have a normal argument.

Skins ProjectNov 7, 20175 votes

That wasn't a joke. Have you BEEN on these forums?

SkorchNov 6, 20177 votes

I dont think you know what shitposting is...

I agree though.

Better JunglerNov 6, 20173 votes

I may not. I heard the term and assumed I did.

Whats it mean?:P

Faceroll TacticsNov 6, 20173 votes

Shitposting is the majority of what you see on Memes and Games

Ventra117Nov 6, 20172 votes

and GD honestly [sg-miss-fortune]

ModThe DjinnNov 8, 20177 votes

Hey there! This thread is pretty popular and has actual discussion so I'm going to let it slide this time, but for future reference the best board to discuss OFFICIAL art is the Story, Art, & Sound board. This board is for community-created content. :)

Better JunglerNov 8, 20175 votes

Thanks for not smiting it. Thank you for letting me know!

Penta PenguinNov 7, 20174 votes

On the fence about buying it but:

animation like you said
already own the best skins (Riot and Gangster Car Blitz)
Hella fuckin Jhin and Vi skins coming out are more important to me
Zoe skin

Iron RubricNov 7, 20174 votes

People saying it won't make a difference don't understand business.

Even a 1% drop in sales gets looked at heavily.

The more money grunt the more that "insignificant" amount gets looked at.

Inb4 riot becomes EA

KnalxzNov 7, 20174 votes

Funny how the new Vayne got a fucking Motorcycle modeled and animated for her but these Blitz skins couldn't get a damn walking animation.

SadKillNov 7, 20171 votes

Funny how the vayne skin is 1820rp and the blitz skin is 1350rp. The whole point of making a skin legendary is to give fancy new models and animations. 1350 skins should have some improvements or changes to particles and effects and possibly voice over filter. Hence the actual concern here where the blitz skins really aren't up to the 1350 quality. Where as the project vayne skin is up to the 1820 quality as it should be.

YoungFarmerNov 6, 20173 votes

Boycotting riot games over a walk animation... interesting.

DrCyanideNov 6, 201724 votes

Where did he say he was boycotting Riot Games? He just said he's boycotting the skin over the animation.

YoungFarmerNov 7, 20172 votes

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Where did he say he was boycotting Riot Games? He just said he's boycotting the skin over the animation.

They are refusing to buy a product as a form of protesting the animation style therefore boycotting, therefore boycotting riot games.

Telephone BoothNov 7, 201712 votes

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They are refusing to buy a product as a form of protesting the animation style therefore boycotting, therefore boycotting riot games.

Yeah but try to think a little deeper. You're oversimplifying. He wants to boycott one product from Riot games, because he fears they will drop in quality if we continue to buy flawed skins for ridiculous prices. I kind of have to agree. If the animation is that bad, the only way to show Riot that it is unacceptable, is to not buy said product, specifically. It's not "never buy anything from Riot games", it's don't buy this new product, or else it will become the norm. Decent skins for ridiculous prices. If the price is gonna be ridiculous, it better be a DAMN good skin. I mean, 1350, to rent a skin?! Its gotta be good.

nGioNov 7, 20177 votes

It's funny that if my Amazon order isn't fucking PERFECT, they sometimes let me keep the product AND refund me, extend my Prime membership for free, etc. Either way, they bend over backwards to make sure that I remain a valued customer.

Gaming companies and ISPs are the 2 business interactions where you're supposed to just feed them money and not ask questions. It's because of people like you, who just take it and don't know any better. If the dude wants a better walk animation then let him demand it, because he holds the money, and he has the power to do it. If Riot tells him to fuck off, then he can take his money somewhere else. Either way, the customer is king, and he can say whatever the fuck he wants about a product someone is attempting to sell him.

Better JunglerNov 7, 20179 votes

Completely agree. My experience with Amazon is incredible. They have ALWAYS addressed my concerns with an order or product of theirs, and I respect that company so much that, aside from groceries, I buy everything off them.

nGioNov 7, 20174 votes

I've gotten so many hookups from Amazon, that I don't even compare prices anymore lol. I just go through them for everything. They are the main reason why my expectations as a customer are so high.

DarkKatalystNov 7, 20173 votes

I really wanted to get those skins, but the walking animations completely ruin them... At this point, I'd rather the skins don't get released if Riot is not changing their minds.

SoryInAdvanceNov 7, 20173 votes

To be honest, now that every skin they release is 1350 rp, I'm pretty much done buying them all together...its really insane how much they charge for these. I can get entire games for less than the price of a new orientation of pixels on my screen that doesn't change the gameplay in the slightest.

KairoptraNov 7, 20172 votes

You see, the thing is that the boards actually make up a relatively small percentage of the player population. Thus, this message will reach relatively few people, and even fewer will decide to go with it. Your plan sounds good in theory, but it won't actually have a lot of effect.

Better JunglerNov 7, 20176 votes

I agree!

This wont bankrupt Riot, and thats not what Im trying to do. 99.8% of the people that play this game will not see this post, but many will have the same opinion regardless, and refuse to buy it. I don't think im changing anyones mind with this post. If someone wants to buy it, they are going to. The point is to bring more attention to it, and when Riot looks at sales data to see why Lancer Blitz didnt perform as well as say... Dunkmaster Darius (* a VERY successful skin*) They may see that there was a boards outcry (not just me) of people looking for better animations. In the future they will not release a skin with bad animations because they will see that some of the community wont support it.

I have 71 upvotes, the skin is 1350 rp. which is 10 dollars roughly. so if JUST the people that have seen this post (.02% of players MAYBE) dont buy the skin, its 710 dollars. As you said, this post will not be seen by the VAST majority of players, but of the community on the boards, theres a pretty big agreement that the skin isnt worth buyin in its current condition. Most of us reached that conclusion without influence from the boards, so im sure a good percentage of the playerbase will see the same thing. That walking animation has to change or the skin will underperform. Which is a damn shame because the actual ART of the skin looks really really good.

tl:dr

This won't bankrupt Riot, nor do we want it to. I just want to make sure bad animations on a 1350 skin doesnt become the Norm for new skin releases in the future.

kagepaladinNov 7, 20173 votes

Put this on Reddit if you want alot more notoriety for it, Alot of the community uses reddit at least a much larger margin than they do on here.

Better JunglerNov 7, 20174 votes

Just being honest, the community of Reddit is really.. really... really annoying.

They remind me of 4chan users... just uppity at everything, the admins are always national socialists and everyone has this strange ego as if the website is some form of validation for their opinions.

Ill stick to the boards:P