Yuumi Q feels terrible

Heckin Support·12/23/2019, 1:54:28 AM·26 votes·11,456 views

It's literally just a way to stack manaflow and Athenes. The damage is nonexistent and the slow is laughable. She is literally just a health dispenser, a less interactive Soraka.

47 Comments

Metal Janna12/23/2019, 2:44:37 AM14 votes

Make it either slow (attached form) OR do damage (unattached form), but never both. Then we can have reasonable mana costs again when the ability does less.

ZephyrDrake12/23/2019, 2:44:35 AM12 votes

I mean it's only an ability that does pitiful damage with a pathetic slow that also costs an insane amount of mana how can that ever be a bad spell.[slayer-jinx-wink]

Clockwork Mouse12/23/2019, 4:27:20 AM5 votes

I wish it was 3 seconds again.

Kirika12/23/2019, 11:45:05 AM4 votes

Here they come. Not wanted in the thread but they dont care. classic Yuumihaters who are too stupid to play against her. Welcome dear Monkeys.

Paroe12/23/2019, 2:23:46 AM4 votes

At this point it should really just drop the slow and be considered a basic attack so we can proc our passive without risking our lives and actually have a passive in the lategame, or opt for an actual slow that effective.

Beacon Academy12/23/2019, 6:55:01 AM3 votes

They should also fix the sensitivity for when you're directing it as well.

Often, it ends up turning away from my intended target

So instead I have to move the cursor outside the circle indicator to force it to go in a somewhat straight line.

Malix Farwin12/23/2019, 8:52:12 AM3 votes

Her win rate went up by 7% but her play rate is less than before the patch and dropping. If thats not a hint at how bad these changes were for her gameplay i do not know what is.

Lystrates12/25/2019, 12:01:08 AM2 votes

I dont get the point of Yuumi now. If Yummi is on the enemy team, get grievous wounds and its like playing a 5 vs 4.5 game.

Saezio12/23/2019, 8:17:44 AM2 votes

2 second duration feels awful after learning with 3 :/

Bjørnetjenesten12/23/2019, 11:29:20 AM2 votes

Delete the champ, she was a huge mistake.

Eventually rerelease her as a support item.

Problem solved.

TiVi12/23/2019, 5:22:56 PM2 votes

Yeah, Yuumi is shit now. Got her to M7 in 2 weeks and loved it on release. Now, one of the worst champs in the game.

G0blinSlay3r12/23/2019, 5:33:44 PM2 votes

most pathetic attempt at a champion i have ever seen.

Unusual midlaner12/23/2019, 7:37:56 PM2 votes

Good

steven454746612/24/2019, 2:51:48 AM2 votes

Well a champion that doesnt even get to control its movement for 90% of the game is obviously gonna be less interactive than soraka

Neptunia xoxo12/24/2019, 3:56:03 AM2 votes

K good nobody likes seeing her in games anyways so that's fine with me. She was a mistake anyways so if anything she should be reworked and not buffed.

PopcornBunni12/24/2019, 3:12:28 PM2 votes

Whatever do you mean? At Rank 3 the ability ALMOST does as much damage as Lulu's at rank 1, she's practically a real champion!

Shovel Bot12/23/2019, 2:32:33 PM1 votes

Yuumi was chancerchamp as soon as people figured her out. The game is better off without her toxic kit.

vgamedude12/24/2019, 2:46:59 AM1 votes

They should rework yuumi to make her a way to enable melee adcs imo. Like jax, trynd, etc. maybe some exp boosts where she takes less than other sups and some reworked mobility or something.

Or make her more like IO

TomiMan712/24/2019, 9:56:02 AM1 votes

Nice, at least less and less ppl will play that cancer.

Hvsao12/23/2019, 7:14:13 PM1 votes

I'm honestly okay with the new Yuumi, thou I liked the old version a bit more.

I think the playstyle just changed to maxing E and W, and building mana regen. You are just a stat stick rather then a damage dealer.

Boomer12/23/2019, 7:58:50 AM1 votes

"The damage is nonexistent" is a bit dramatic.

(Empowered values only,) the rank 5 base damage went up by 50, the ratio was reduced by 0.25. Until you break 200 AP, it's a buff. After 200, it's 25 less damage per 100 AP.

It was a rare situation when Yuumi would break 400 AP on 9.23. Most were going athene's, redemption, ardent, luden's. The ones who were getting roughly 400AP were going luden's, death cap, mejai's. This build was quite rare on 9.23 (was very popular shortly after her release, but not recently.) So she probably lost about 50 damage, 100 at the absolute most with a full AP mage build, on her empowered Q. The missile duration is WAY more significant.

https://u.gg/lol/champions/yuumi/pro-build

I really don't understand why Riot nerfed her Q's slow and not its damage in the first fucking place though. She's a support, not a mage. Keep the utility, gut the damage.

Kirika12/23/2019, 8:57:14 AM1 votes

Well as if riot cared one bit about pick/ban or playrates. As long as the winrate is around 50% they dont give a shit. Thats why they nerfed Sona lately although her pick and banrate together is below 2%

Mártir12/23/2019, 9:08:53 AM1 votes

I've been complaining over and over, about how HORRIBLE the Rework was, and everyone just downvoted and laughed, saying "Fk Yuumi /// Also her WR went up".

Go to the subreddit of YuumiMains, everyone is in deep depression. "True" YuumiMains are quitting her, she feels slow and clunky.

The buffed the AFK Yuumi, but not the Yuumi who would go in and out, blocking skillshots herself, autoattacking, and so on.

And lets not talk about CC putting her "W" in 5s CD... LMAO. Even Soraka/Malzahar's Silences put her "W" in CD instantly, my god. Promotes being AFK inside anchor 24/7.

Ulkusus12/23/2019, 9:28:36 AM1 votes

Without evaluating the changes, I'd just like to mention that: Yuumi has always been a less- or non-interactive support for her enemies though. And having a strong Q either makes her someones free engage tool or someones gun turret.

Zeyphel12/24/2019, 1:18:37 AM1 votes

True, but it also felt Terrible to play against her when she was completely broken.

Kirika12/23/2019, 8:42:42 AM1 votes

But the missile speed is higher. No I think Yuumi is fine the way she is for one little thing: 0.25 secs delay on the W. In combination with 5 secs cd for beeing cced in any way its breaking her neck and making her massive non existent. If they'd remove that she would be fine. (cause she was kinda strong before and I say that as level 7 Yuumi)

FSRER12/23/2019, 1:20:47 PM1 votes

Personally I don't find her underwhelming. Riot made a decision, choosing between her having more poke than heal or more health than poke and they chose the second. She is an extremely safe pick, which in reality has low skill cap, with a respectable heal and a very good ultimate. Combine her W with something aggressive like a Draven or something very safe like Ezreal and you got a very solid botlane. So yes, they made her a mini healbot instead of a jack of all trades that she was made after her initial release

The Swift Yordle12/23/2019, 2:22:36 PM1 votes

Yuumi What they need to do is revert the damage nerfs. Make it a costly ability though. Because we will then be put in a position to either do dmg and risk getting off to get a mana refund. But then again I think the W nerf is too harsh. I want them to limit it to roots... Poly, knockbacks, stuns, silences... all put it on CD it's kind of rough when I play Yuumi I don't even get off its like not even worth anymore. After my first back in my lane I just have item 1004 x4 item 3850 x1 item 3114 that way I never have to worry about the mana issues and use bop and block. I never Q anymore since the change its literally not even worth it effort.