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Please completly scrap the celerity changes, don't bring them back next PBE cycle

SwiftKitten88·Nov 3, 2018·1 votes·1,931 views

"completely deleted and changed into "movement speed skills now give 13 % more movement speed) this mean if your movement ability have u 20% cdr... u now get... 22% [zombie-brand-facepalm]

it's NOT 20% turns into 33%.

i know they aren't going live this cycle.

but they are horrific and don't deserve to go live EVER. celerity isn't "picked" because we think its "op"

its picked because there other 2 choices are REALLY bad "absolute focus", should be renamed "absolutely worthless" and "transcendence" is only good on AP supports, because u have overloaded support with so much freaking excessive CDR, it provides decent AP.

if any other champ want to dip into sorcery. the other option to choose from are so horrificly bad that "celerity" is the only option in your "AD" tree not only get u get FOUR keystones... but u actually have MEANINGFUL choices to make.

we take celerity because its the ONLY DECENT OPTION.

if u want to change that row DELETE ABSOLUTE FOCUS!!!

9 Comments

Moody PNov 3, 20182 votes

celerity changes are because it's never a bad choice which automatically makes it better than the other 2 for everyone

DuskDaUmbreonNov 3, 20182 votes

Not only is it never a bad choice (As there are plenty of runes that aren't a bad choice, such as, for example, Fleet Footwork, which basically anybody can use), but it's always a good choice.

Each row should have a fairly decent all-around choice that anybody can use pretty much whenever, if they'd ever use that tree to begin with. There's no problem with that. The problem is when the general choice tends to be the better option regardless.

Moody PNov 3, 20181 votes

correct

this rune's actually fairly decent still on a lot of people that already used it as well as being significantly better for champs who previously didn't. it's basically nerfing the rune for people who took it just to have it

i for one will greatly enjoy my extra ~28 MS on every volibear Q

SwiftKitten88Nov 3, 20181 votes

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correct

this rune's actually fairly decent still on a lot of people that already used it as well as being significantly better for champs who previously didn't. it's basically nerfing the rune for people who took it just to have it

i for one will greatly enjoy my extra ~28 MS on every volibear Q

LOL yeah well u may want to check your math.

assuming u have t2 boots for an extra 45 more base ms

and u have 25% ms skill when then turns into a 28.25% ms skill

before pressing Q u have 390 after pressing Q u have 488.5

with the new + 13% u have 500.175 which is 11.675 more moment speed than no celerity

with the OLD celerity

your ms speed with your Q would be 494.8125

#making u only gain 5.3625 ms over old celerity, a far cry from your ~ 28 ms more which u THINK your getting

u also LOST 6 AD or becuase it 10 ap

on the other hand.. champion like Nidalee lose 10 AP on the first clear because of this change while only gaining 6.5 ms

which is PRETTY FUCKING HUGE

people like Quinn would gain 50 ms with a lvl 3 ulti

Udyr would get 10 more MS and lose 8.6 ad or 14.4 AP

Ps i had to make a whole fucking spreedsheet for this math

Moody PNov 3, 20181 votes

i don't need to check my math when I've actually played the champion and the rune on PBE, lmao.

volibear has 52.5% MS with a fully ranked Q

volibear doesn't give a shit about bonus AD so i lose nothing here

SwiftKitten88Nov 3, 20181 votes

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i don't need to check my math when I've actually played the champion and the rune on PBE, lmao.

volibear has 52.5% MS with a fully ranked Q

volibear doesn't give a shit about bonus AD so i lose nothing here

ok well i checked.. a 52.5% ms boost wold give u 17.69 and u lose 12.5 ad or 20.7 ap

( someone needs to update the wiki)

Tahminatrix Nov 3, 20181 votes

I think they meant 13% of 20 is rounded to 2 so its 20+2 = 22% speed buff rather than a 20% speed buff.

Kats PajamasNov 3, 20181 votes

it needs to be reworked anyway, it doesn't benefit you unless the MS steroid is at least 2s long, and there are a shit ton of MS steroids that are not 2s long.

The min/max was really badly balanced.

For example, the 30% MS on heal does nothing with Celerity, because it lasts 1 second.

SwiftKitten88Nov 3, 20181 votes

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I think they meant 13% of 20 is rounded to 2 so its 20+2 = 22% speed buff rather than a 20% speed buff.

which is completely useless

and even worse than absolute focus.

all they are doing is DELETING celerity. NO ONE is going to take it because its WORTHLESS, if this goes trhough.. and if they buff to it a degree where it s WORTH taking on some champs it would BREAK those champs.

u mean if it EVER got to like a 40% buff to amke it WORTH taking then it woudl absudly BREAK champions

the fact is thier change is HORRIBLE as it can only have two outcomes... its 100% worthless, just like "absolute focus is" this then forces EVERYONE to run "transcendence" because it then becomes the ONLY option. that is even remotely useful. "celerity isnt taklen becuase its "useful on everyone" its taken but its the ONLY choice in that slot that has ANY worth AT ALL outside of AP supports.

absolute focus is 100% worthless. there reason why "celerity" is "always taken" is becuase if u TAKE primary sorcery u are FORCED to take something from that row. and the othet two options are worth JACK SHIT.

cerlity is the ONLY rune in that row.. unless u are playing an AP support, therefore anyone with half a working brain cell who is TAKING primary sorcery its going to puck it because THERE ARE NO OTHER OPTIONS!!!! every other option is a "troll pick"

to quote m oody

[{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TqxKNJ3G,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-03T19:53:02.676+0000)

celerity changes are because it's never a bad choice which automatically makes it better than the other 2 for everyone

its never a bad choice because the other two ARE BAD CHOICES

its the difference between offering somone a gallon of milk (celerity) a gallon of (weed killer) which if your a farm COULD technially be useful. (transcendence) and a gallon of pig vomit which is ~~absolute focus~~ absolutely worthless.

of COURSE your going to fucking take the gallon of milk unless your a farmer with a bunch of weeds.

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