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@Anyone from Riot. Are you going to ever address the massive nerfs you just gave to Riven 6.21?

Apocalypsic·Oct 21, 2016·3 votes·918 views

Ok so as we all know in patch 6.20 the new auto attack mechanic completely broke Riven's fast Q to the point of being actually OP and as a Riven main I completely admit that it was necessary to revert it to it's previous state from 6.19.

However this was not a Revert, what they did on this patch, Riven's fast Q not only is slower than 6.19 (which could be considered baseline or average for the champion) but it is also extremely clunky and in many situations it's impossible or far too difficult to cancel properly while kiting or even sometimes just in basic fights. Pretty much everyone who mains/plays her, including Adrianaries and several other high elo players can confirm that this is the case and quite honestly its a straight nerf to her, giving her opposing laners a massive advantage against her this patch.

Riot please address this, it's actually a huge problem for Riven players right now, and everyone can feel it. If your intentions were to revert her Q cancels to 6.19 you actually failed immensely at it. Now if your intentions were to nerf her reliability, combo speed, and turn her into a clunky robot that feels like it's dancing through sludge then at least tell us straight up, because that's what you did.

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AttackOnTeemosOct 21, 20161 votes

I'm not trying to be that one, but let me take a look at one of your older riven matches here. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2305102688/32795271?tab=overview

Now for someone is doing some complaining about Riven changes I decided to actually look INTO your games in general and study your play pattern. You are one of the people who seem to want to complain about nerfs about a champion you ....to be honest with are not really good at to begin with. :/ Between the Elise<Ezreal<Malphite all of them to had one thing in common that deleted you.

As we all know Riven is one of those champions who can get a nice shield from the AD she builds, in your case you felt the need only using mercs for your only MR. Stop that. Every blue moon you may do a malphite game but just because you are a "Riven" main doesn't mean you are entitled to say what needs to be changed on the champion. Especially if you are not doing well with the champ to begin with :/.

ApocalypsicOct 21, 20162 votes

I was actually lagging miserably that game. For most of the latter end of september and early october my ping was spiking severely at all points of the day and I shouldn't have gone into that game in the first place, I lost a lot of LP trying to play ranked during that time frame, which is why if you look, at my match history I haven't really since, except for like one Jayce game I managed while my ping was smooth.

All the rest of my games were just with friends since no one was gonna judge me for my lag issues.

Looking at a singular game in my match history with Zero context tells you nothing about my Riven play or my gameplay in general.

I made this post about Riven because it's NOT just me that feels this way, but someone's gotta let Riot know.

TeémòOct 21, 20162 votes

You don't want to be that guy. It seems you've never played riven; and it looks like you have 49% win rate. The guy is trying to ask a question, sure it should of been a support question but it doesn't mean you need to come on here and belittle the guy He just wanted to know what's going on.

your "entitlement" thing is bulll crap Everyone has a right to an opinion on the boards got a problem get out of the boards simple and easy.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

Automated RivenOct 21, 20161 votes

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I'm not trying to be that one, but let me take a look at one of your older riven matches here. http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2305102688/32795271?tab=overview

Now for someone is doing some complaining about Riven changes I decided to actually look INTO your games in general and study your play pattern. You are one of the people who seem to want to complain about nerfs about a champion you ....to be honest with are not really good at to begin with. :/ Between the Elise<Ezreal<Malphite all of them to had one thing in common that deleted you.

As we all know Riven is one of those champions who can get a nice shield from the AD she builds, in your case you felt the need only using mercs for your only MR. Stop that. Every blue moon you may do a malphite game but just because you are a "Riven" main doesn't mean you are entitled to say what needs to be changed on the champion. Especially if you are not doing well with the champ to begin with :/.

you can check my match history and see that I play riven alot. being my most played champion in the game and my only level 7 champion. and yes I may only be silver but the reverts in patch 6.21 did hurt her alot. the fast combo (that I admittedly was not super good at but could do occasionally and fairly consistantly while I was practicing) is significantly harder to do. it could just be the timings but one of the reasons that riven is so much fun to play is because of how fluid she was. and now there is a wierd delay half the time on the auto attack after an ability such as her q and e (her w always had a huge delay) that screws up her aa q aa q aa q aa combo because the timings arent uniform

AttackOnTeemosOct 21, 20161 votes

Riven is one of the few AD Melee Champions who can melt someone with a Clever and finish them even when they think they got away. You are saying "everyone" however I haven't seen a Riven complaint on the forums in a while now.

ApocalypsicOct 21, 20162 votes

Because no one who plays Riven wants to post on these forums because they instantly get either flamed or downvoted.

https://gyazo.com/1a5a00666fcc9c779e87e51acdad566e

https://gyazo.com/0b1ee9e6377a0e9c7d889755df5e7719

EDIT: To further prove my point my post is being massively down voted for no reason. Riot may actually start taking people seriously here if they drop the huge childish bias they have against melee AD's and just champions in general that they decide are OP because they don't like them.

AttackOnTeemosOct 21, 20161 votes

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Because no one who plays Riven wants to post on these forums because they instantly get either flamed or downvoted.

https://gyazo.com/1a5a00666fcc9c779e87e51acdad566e

https://gyazo.com/0b1ee9e6377a0e9c7d889755df5e7719

EDIT: To further prove my point my post is being massively down voted for no reason. Riot may actually start taking people seriously here if they drop the huge childish bias they have against melee AD's and just champions in general that they decide are OP because they don't like them.

Yep AD champs are hated, Just tell Darius,Yi to top being picked, and tell Tryndamere to no longer back door or have an ultimate that keep him from being killed.

ApocalypsicOct 21, 20161 votes

In that same line of thought I could tell Syndra and Anivia to stop one shotting people from five miles away :P.

GULAG 4 UOct 21, 20161 votes

Couple of rule of thumbs here:

Do not say you main Yasuo and do not make it clear in your math history

Do not say you main riven

Do not say you main vayne

ApocalypsicOct 21, 20161 votes

Unfortunately I get that, but someone's got to put the post up.

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