Yeah my post about Adrian a few days ago. Dyrus is doing it too.

Apocalypsic·Jan 25, 2018·104 votes·5,163 views

https://twitter.com/Dyrus/status/952445598388637696

Maybe its time to wake up and seriously balance your game now Riot, you're losing some really good players and some really huge twitch moneymakers and people who expose your game to the masses.

What do you think its going to look like to people when they see Dyrus quitting and lambasting your game, Adrian, ICU, all the other top players?

Your fixes for top are shit and you need to get your act together really fast before you lose an entire lanes worth of players.

101 Comments

General Esdeath Jan 25, 201857 votes

I love people saying "maybe dyrus is bored"

Listen, this man slows down when top is bad, and it's been getting worse for 3 years now. He's just had enough. Imqtpie slowed down during the "adc in 2017 lul" phase. Dyrus has more fun being held at gunpoint in VR Chat than playing top lane, that should really tell Riot something.

Kayn AkabaneJan 25, 20184 votes

Theres a meta he doesnt like in preseason/a patch after, gotta quit the game lel

General Esdeath Jan 25, 201840 votes

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Kayn AkabaneJan 25, 20182 votes

But Ornn and Jayce and Vlad and Camille and co. are broken. :thinking:

Milton FletcherJan 25, 201812 votes

Bloody hell you’re something else m8

They are the reason the lane is cancer other than Camille

Where is the logic in the shit u just typed

Kayn AkabaneJan 25, 20183 votes

"Top is bad" "because these champs that I dont like are overpowered and not part of the class I want to be good" lel

greekvandaLJan 25, 201811 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kayn Akabane,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EuEZj6yp,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T12:05:41.072+0000)

"Top is bad" "because these champs that I dont like are overpowered and not part of the class I want to be good" lel

Anyone can be a good adc. I picked it up as soon as the season started and imma abuse it as soon as they gut tristana so i dont have to lane her. easily the second easiest role in the game second to support.

Glasss of WaterJan 25, 20186 votes

[{quoted}](name=toxicity creep,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EuEZj6yp,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T13:24:43.467+0000)

Anyone can be a good adc. I picked it up as soon as the season started and imma abuse it as soon as they gut tristana so i dont have to lane her. easily the second easiest role in the game second to support.

You play in eune every role is easy

greekvandaLJan 25, 201810 votes

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You play in eune every role is easy

That's why i got plat 1 in NA in season 6 with 190 ping. Move along boy.

MkShenGreatAgainJan 25, 20184 votes

You better ship off to America and duo with me boi xd

greekvandaLJan 25, 20185 votes

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You better ship off to America and duo with me boi xd

lul. Nah ty playing on two accounts is enough cancer :p

MizayaJan 25, 20183 votes

Not anyone can be a good adc. Anyone can play adc and do reasonably well. There was a time when a good adc >>> average adc. Now the gap is almost nonexistent.

General Esdeath Jan 25, 201818 votes

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Andrey0345Jan 25, 20187 votes

you're comments are slow

your*

don't kill me pls

HereComeSexyTimeJan 25, 201832 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kayn Akabane,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EuEZj6yp,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2018-01-25T08:51:16.285+0000)

thinking

liar

GayFluffyUnicornJan 25, 20184 votes

Yeah vlad the toplane fighter. If a champ like vlad is viable or even one of the best toplaners riot should start taking a good fuckin look at what is wrong with their game.

PurejoyceJan 26, 20182 votes

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Yeah vlad the toplane fighter. If a champ like vlad is viable or even one of the best toplaners riot should start taking a good fuckin look at what is wrong with their game.

What do you even mean by that? Vlad was played on top since the release.

AirKingNeoJan 25, 20181 votes

So a tank, a broken anti-bruiser, a mage, and Comet keystone?

Which bruiser is viable again?

PurejoyceJan 26, 20182 votes

{quoted} Which bruiser is viable again?

Camille, kled, yorick, gp, urgot, olaf, illaoi, jax, irelia, gnar?
And then probably a few more, but you'd try to re-spec them just to claim "these are not bruisers".

AirKingNeoJan 26, 20181 votes

Gnar and GP are not bruisers. They don't even play like them. Camille is abusing Comet and is the only viable bruiser.

The rest aren't viable.

PurejoyceJan 26, 20181 votes

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Gnar and GP are not bruisers. They don't even play like them. Camille is abusing Comet and is the only viable bruiser.

The rest aren't viable.

Yes, they are, you don't understand what bruisers are.
It doesn't matter who abuses what, you asked who's currently viable, stop making excuses just so you have any -terrible- reason to dismiss every answer.

Yes, they are, you don't know what you're talking about.

AirKingNeoJan 26, 20181 votes

A bruiser is a melee fighter who encompasses Juggernauts, Divers, and Skirmishers.

Gnar is a ranged, kite tank. That's not a bruiser. Gangplank is a unique playstyle who could be seen as a marksmen skirmisher hybrid. Even if you make the argument that Gangplank is a bruisers or semi-bruiser, he's only good because he's abusing the broken Keystone known as Kleptomancy and not actually being a strong champion without it.

Not that having 1 semi-bruiser and 1 bruiser top lane be viable doesn't mean the other 20 bruisers being shit is somehow wrong.

I know what I'm talking about because, unlike you, I'm a top lane main.

PurejoyceJan 27, 20181 votes

{quoted}

A bruiser is a melee fighter who encompasses Juggernauts, Divers, and Skirmishers.

Gnar is a ranged, kite tank. That's not a bruiser. Gangplank is a unique playstyle who could be seen as a marksmen skirmisher hybrid. Even if you make the argument that Gangplank is a bruisers or semi-bruiser, he's only good because he's abusing the broken Keystone known as Kleptomancy and not actually being a strong champion without it.

Not that having 1 semi-bruiser and 1 bruiser top lane be viable doesn't mean the other 20 bruisers being shit is somehow wrong.

I know what I'm talking about because, unlike you, I'm a top lane main.

Even putting him having both forms aside, it doesn't need to be melee. And "kite tank" isn't an available category. He's a bruiser. Unique or not, he fits in one of the category, which is a bruiser. Trying to say gp is anything close to a marksman is laughable and nothing more. And again, you ask about "good/viable bruiser", you get a list of them and then you try to say tha tthey're "only good because they're abusing this or that" ;D Nobody cares. They're bruisers and they're more than viable. You're wrong, now get over yourself.

And it's not 1 or 2 bruisers, the fact that you're in denial doesn't mean those picks are bad or in any way not viable.

And you're saying I'm not a toplaner based on what exactly? Nothing, like the rest of your post? Not a surprise, as I already said, you have no idea what you're talking about and just try to move the goalposts so it fits your agenda. Bad attempt.

AirKingNeoJan 27, 20181 votes

How is Gnar a bruiser despite not having the playstyle of a one?

I'm not in denial. There are two viable bruisers. GP and Camille. How does this excuse Aatrox, Jax, Irelia, Kled, Trundle, etc. being complete shit? That's what I'm asking you.

If you argue that some champions have their own time in the spotlight, then I'll ask why Jayce, Maokai, and Gnar have been for 2 years in the spotlight and why Jax, Aatrox, and Kled haven't been in the spotlight during the past 2.

PurejoyceJan 27, 20181 votes

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How is Gnar a bruiser despite not having the playstyle of a one?

How can you keep talking what has or hasn't """a playstyle of a bruiser""" when you don't understand what a bruiser is?

I'm not in denial. There are two viable bruisers. GP and Camille. How does this excuse Aatrox, Jax, Irelia, Kled, Trundle, etc. being complete shit? That's what I'm asking you.

You clearly are. There are many viable bruiser, which I've listed above. And hurr durr, suddenly you don't have a problem with gp being a bruiser? It's getting boring, but you have no idea what you're talking about.

If you argue that some champions have their own time in the spotlight, then I'll ask why Jayce, Maokai, and Gnar have been for 2 years in the spotlight and why Jax, Aatrox, and Kled haven't been in the spotlight during the past 2.

wtf are you even talking about right now, how's that relevant to anything I said? Why do you come up with some random statements out of the thin air, but refused to ACTUALLY answer to my post? You're wrong, you see you're wrong, you're dropping parts of the posts like they never existed and continue with something random instead. lmao, how convenient. Also claming that state of jax and kled is bad.... xDD

AirKingNeoJan 27, 20181 votes

I do know what a bruiser is. Gnar is not one of them. I already explained this.

There are 2 viable bruisers. There are about 20 bruisers overall. That's less than 20% of them.

Again, how do 2 bruisers being viable somehow mean we should ignore the fact most bruisers suck?

PurejoyceJan 27, 20182 votes

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I do know what a bruiser is. Gnar is not one of them. I already explained this.

There are 2 viable bruisers. There are about 20 bruisers overall. That's less than 20% of them.

Again, how do 2 bruisers being viable somehow mean we should ignore the fact most bruisers suck?

Yes, gnar is one. I already explained this.

Nope, there are more viable bruisers and I already listed some of them, the fact that you keep failing with them is your problem, not bruisers'. lmao funny how you bring up "%", but can't even say the correct number in a simple "2 out of 20", epic ;D

More than 2 are viable, you're clearly wrong. Also they don't, maybe just you do.

HaIlMonitorJan 25, 201842 votes

That is a big deal when someone like Dyrus has stated on stream he doesn't make money when he doesn't play lol (because he usually has way less viewers when not on league) that he is planning on quitting. When it is actually his job, and he is legit leaving that is a bad sign.

General Esdeath Jan 25, 201833 votes

NAH MAN HE MUST BE BORED. BETTER BUFF MARKSMEN TO MAKE THE GAME MORE EXCITING FOR HIM!

#SAVEdYRUS

ChermorgJan 25, 201811 votes

Just because he makes more money streaming league doesn't mean he enjoys it. It's very possible that he's financially in a situation he can afford to take some time off.

People read way too much into these things.

T4underboltJan 25, 20187 votes

I wonder if you always try to make riot decision and game look fine, because riot pays you for it or you are so biased that you believe riot is right in everything. It really gets bored to see you denying every single thing in every single thread.

Z3SleeperJan 25, 201814 votes

He's simply looking from a different perspective. No need to get huffy.

Whether he's right or wrong who knows? I personally don't know Dyrus' financial standpoint.

ChermorgJan 25, 20189 votes

I mean, any streamer I watch (i follow a couple religiously when I have the time) takes a break. I swear I see just as many "yo i'm taking the day off" or "yo i'm gaming with friends" or "yo scheduled game for today is cancelled i'm burned out of it" tweets as i do "yo hey guys live with planned stream".

People are taking A and B, and instead of adding them to get C they're adding them to get the entire field of calculus.

Sugar MommaJan 25, 20189 votes

Except Dyrus himself has been commenting negatively on the state of the game.

Mita3003Jan 26, 20181 votes

Its one guy saying that the game is bad league has over 60 milion players so what if he is a streamer. I really dont get people that are saying the game is dying beacuse couple of hundred people are "quiting" the game has milions of players its not going anywhere.

GayFluffyUnicornJan 26, 20183 votes

It's hundreds if not thousands of guys saying that. But you only hear the most popular once and also the best players who exist. It's a difference. This game can and should not be balanced around the worst players when its supposed to be a competitive esport

Lios AshenbladeJan 25, 20187 votes

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Just because he makes more money streaming league doesn't mean he enjoys it. It's very possible that he's financially in a situation he can afford to take some time off.

People read way too much into these things.

It's the age of sensationalist media, an acorn hits their heads, and chicken little proclaims to the world that the sky is falling

La Belle SauvageJan 25, 20182 votes

Love this comment!

La Belle SauvageJan 25, 20184 votes

Look, I watched Dyrus for the first time a little while ago. While it's apparent he knows the game in and out, he's boring to watch. I couldn't hang in their past 8 minutes.

If you're going to stream, you have to be dynamic. You have to be entertaining, it isn't enough to be a top player and state your opinion in a near monotonous voice.

Perhaps I caught a bad video, but in today's culture you only have a small window to grab someone's attention. Especially when that person is discovering your stream for the first time.

There are a plethora of excellent streamers out there already so competition for viewers is tough.

BobaFlautistJan 25, 20189 votes

Yeah, and he's boring because he's bored.

Look, I know his laid back attitude isn't fun for everyone, but I've always had a lot of fun watching him utilize his deep game knowledge and macro skills to slowly, carefully starve out the opponent.

He has more quiet, subdued sense of humor, and he seemed to genuinely enjoy the thoughtful, strategic play.

But this season he's been more and more frustrated. He's still good, but the skills he values and practiced are less relevant. He wins games not because of his strategy, but because he followed the formula and didn't get camped. He loses games not because he played poorly, but because he got blitzed down by meta-bullshit or repeated ganks, his team lost lane, and he didn't have the time to catch up and carry.

The game is totally snowbally, but more than that, it's volatile as fuck. Careful, consistent safe play just isn't worth as much as it used to be, and people that focused on consistency over "The Plays" aren't able to express their skill anymore.

Ale non è maleJan 25, 201816 votes

Except then he goes out and post this

https://twitter.com/Dyrus/status/956546048658432000

To be honest, it look like he isn't comparing much about balance but it's more like the guy just have more fun streaming other games at the moment, but being tied primarily to LOL, he has to keep streaming it if he wants to make money, which makes him dislike the game more than what he would if he could just take a break

It is clear he don't like champions meant for other lanes played as top, as he is an old school top laner which loves the 1vs1 melee duelist, but you are really grasping at straws by using random tweets to get an argument against current balance that you don't like