Hybrid should be swapped for Adaptive

The Ecdysiast··5 votes·3,288 views

Just a suggestion, but perhaps champions who have hybrid scaling should be changed to deal Adaptive damage instead of a predetermined type of damage. That way the kind of damage they're dealing is actually in line with the items they purchase and can be built against.

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Daddy Ants2 votes

Hybrid champions can still be built against though...

You just need Armor and MR.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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Hybrid champions can still be built against though...

You just need Armor and MR.

That's exactly why they can't be, because you can't buy both as effectively as one.

xDogMeatx1 votes

sounds like magical hats vayne is going to be meta. item 3089 item 3089 item 3100 item 3151 item 3285 item 3020

Warlord Rhinark1 votes

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sounds like magical hats vayne is going to be meta. item 3089 item 3089 item 3100 item 3151 item 3285 item 3020

Vayne doesn't have any AP scalings though.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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Vayne doesn't have any AP scalings though.

i thought he meant convert your scalings altogether. so that your damage turns magic or physical depending on your adaptive stats.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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i thought he meant convert your scalings altogether. so that your damage turns magic or physical depending on your adaptive stats.

No, I only meant champions who currently have a hybrid scaling would deal one or the other based on whichever they have more of.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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sounds like magical hats vayne is going to be meta. item 3089 item 3089 item 3100 item 3151 item 3285 item 3020

Vayne's one of the 18 champions in the entire game who doesn't have a single AP ratio in her kit.

So that wouldn't work.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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Vayne's one of the 18 champions in the entire game who doesn't have a single AP ratio in her kit.

So that wouldn't work.

i said i thought he meant conversion into adaptive damage.

GigglesO1 votes

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and can be built against.

Defense items would have to not feel like garbage for this to work. Noone is going to build defense when offence just lets you win trades, and defense just makes you lose slower.

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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Defense items would have to not feel like garbage for this to work. Noone is going to build defense when offence just lets you win trades, and defense just makes you lose slower.

This would help defensive items not feel like garbage. The reason they do is because their defense against hybrid/true damage was reduced back in 7.9 and only a couple items got slightly reverted.

GigglesO1 votes

No it wouldn't make tank items feel better. Why? Because I still don't live for shit against all ad or all ap teams...

hhaavviikk1 votes

but wouldn't this just get rid of hybrids alltogether? would kinda ruin the fun

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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but wouldn't this just get rid of hybrids alltogether? would kinda ruin the fun

It'd add a new style to their play. Instead of just being able to stat-check tanks all the time because it's impossible to build duo defense as effectively as one, they'll instead be able to build towards the damage their team doesn't have-- making them more effective if they do it right, but making them pay if they just blindly build the same damage the tank is already defending against.

BremerdanGorst1 votes

Sounds neat, but might be a bit much to deal with in practice, if they can switch from one damage type to another with a visit to the shop.

xDogMeatx1 votes

you mean how jax Q is physical but you build ap you 'tada' its magic? or his W could be physical?

The Ecdysiast1 votes

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you mean how jax Q is physical but you build ap you 'tada' its magic? or his W could be physical?

Ah, I'll make a new post to explain exactly what I mean.

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