Ppl are talking about bruisers being everywhere, but in fact mages are the ones taking over the map

Rexxiee·Jun 22, 2018·6 votes·1,886 views

Mages can be played in almost every role now right now (including JG with taliya), and double mage bot is the strongest bot lane composition now.

Its like hashinshin said, mages need some nerfs as they are way too strong now, the base damage being so strong + high scaling with huge ap items is broken, time to take away some AP from them, champs like brand, zyra, vlad, etc are pretty much nuts now.

25 Comments

Madsin25Jun 22, 20189 votes

LMFAO.

This is such a stupid post I don't even know where to begin.

Literally a month ago mages were the worst class to play because of the mana changes, now all of a sudden they are broken?

Stop with the bullshit and maybe don't listen to everything you hear on youtube video.

RexxieeJun 22, 20181 votes

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LMFAO.

This is such a stupid post I don't even know where to begin.

Literally a month ago mages were the worst class to play because of the mana changes, now all of a sudden they are broken?

Stop with the bullshit and maybe don't listen to everything you hear on youtube video.

Yeah, lets ignore all the AP buffs the items got over several patches.

NyarlathοtepJun 22, 20182 votes

A tiny bit of ap (5 to be exact) and in exchange lost a bunch of mana late game. Hardly a buff.

AwhegarkJun 22, 20186 votes

you got downvoted for speaking ill of mages. dont matter how broken that class is the boards will never admit it.

HalcyonDwellerJun 22, 20183 votes

Personally I downvoted the post because it didn't present facts and evidence to back up its claims. I'm totally onboard with nerfing mages IF AND ONLY IF they are actually broken. Convince me they are broken first, then you can have my support for your efforts to get them nerfed.

You want the support then you have to put the work in to earn it. You can't just claim something is fact and expect people to kiss your feet and fall in line behind you.

DuskDaUmbreonJun 22, 20186 votes

Ah, of course. Hashinshin. The epitome of who should always be listened to about what's strong. Since he's clearly always unbiased, never blames his jg/mid/adc/support/Riot/"broken" runes/"broken" champions, and instead takes the blame for each of his mistakes.

...In case you can't tell, that's sarcasm. If you're ever listening to Hashinshin for balance ideas, you've fucked up somewhere. There's a reason Riot doesn't listen to him, and that's because Jax would be at an 80% winrate if they did, with more buffs on the way. It's the same fucking thing every time: "Bruisers are weak, mages/adcs/supports are OP!"

Edge of DaybreakJun 22, 20185 votes

Brave man to come to a board dominated by mage players and tell them anything that isn't their class is weak and I agree with you.

NaymlissJun 22, 20182 votes

Sure, mages are not weak, but they sure as hell aren't overpowering other classes right now. Assassins have a much higher pickrate than mages in their main lane

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/middle

Jinzo TorranceJun 22, 20185 votes

Oh, so Hash went from saying that Singed and Grasp are the reason he loses to mages being broken now? Did he get outplayed by a mage or something? Why are people using him as an example?

zarxus1234Jun 22, 20185 votes

There is one mage over powered bot lane and that is brand. You pick the one mage that does well in the jungle to say that mages jungle now too?

If you watch streams or games or look at peoples match histories you will see bruisers are played more often and in more spots. Because one mage does well doesn't mean the class as a whole is doing well.

RexxieeJun 22, 20183 votes

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There is one mage over powered bot lane and that is brand. You pick the one mage that does well in the jungle to say that mages jungle now too?

If you watch streams or games or look at peoples match histories you will see bruisers are played more often and in more spots. Because one mage does well doesn't mean the class as a whole is doing well.

Multiple mages are doing better than well on multiple lanes.

Its just a fact, mages are pretty much overpowered right now and the mage players are trying to put all the focus on bruisers.

zarxus1234Jun 22, 20182 votes

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Multiple mages are doing better than well on multiple lanes.

Its just a fact, mages are pretty much overpowered right now and the mage players are trying to put all the focus on bruisers.

Funny i just went to hashinshins stream and there were 3 bruisers 0 mages played. Please tell me what mages are over powered right now besides brand? I'd like to know.

OtherworldzJun 22, 20185 votes

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Funny i just went to hashinshins stream and there were 3 bruisers 0 mages played. Please tell me what mages are over powered right now besides brand? I'd like to know.

Hashinshin already said the game would be better/more interesting if it were 5 melee vs 5 melee and no ranged champions. He doesn't even try to hide his bias...

The fact that people actually quote him to back up their balance statements is hilarious when he calls champions like Riven and Fiora broken all the time too. I'd rather not see this game turn into the League of Jax/Aatrox/Darius/Kled/Olaf to satisfy one delusional meme streamer who can't tolerate the existence of anything being decent in the game except his own champion puddle.

HalcyonDwellerJun 22, 20182 votes

Saying, "It's just a fact." doesn't make it a fact. If you want to make claims like this then bring the evidence to back them up.

NyarlathοtepJun 22, 20184 votes

You are a joke man. Or rather, your post is a joke. High scaling. Good fucking one. Most mages have an average of 70% ratio. Not quite exactly high. Hell almost(keyword, almost) no mage has ration higher than 90%. In fact, the only one that i know that has such a big ratio (mage side) is only veigar. Whereas aatrox,ashe and galio (the first that came to my mind) have too higher ap ratio.

Fun fact you are so coward that you are avoiding to post with your main acc to avoid any sort of criticism.

DontTouchMyBallJun 22, 20184 votes

Hash is broken clock that is only right 2 times a day or maybe less that that.

And you are an easy to convince person. Thinking and getting to conclusions all by yourself is hard so you trust the flavor of the month LoL celebrity to push his own agenda and one-dimensional view over the game.

Even is his Jax had 100% Winrate, I assure you, he'd still be complaining about the game and it's all because people like you don't think for themselves, support and go around spread his word like he was a somesort of prophet of a God

Can't wait to see what he'll complaining next, maybe getting jungle camp or nerf tanks or some BS

HalcyonDwellerJun 22, 20183 votes

Can somebody provide some proof of these claims? They're pretty sweeping in nature and a bit overreaching.
I'm confused, is being able to play most positions a bad thing? Why are you trying to undercut another role just because your favorite roles aren't up to snuff?

KhristophorosJun 22, 20182 votes

I'm pretty sure people realize that specific mages are out of line.

NaymlissJun 22, 20182 votes

No, it's all mages. Lissandra has been crossing the line and forcing champions out of the meta for this whole season, she really needs to be tuned down.

NaymlissJun 22, 20182 votes

Ah, yes, look at their absurd playrate in their main lane. It's like you barely even see assassins anymore because all you see is lissandra/azir/karthus.

https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/middle

OtterlyLostJun 22, 20181 votes

I mean I feel like bruisers are overtuned buf I also agree that mages, if they're going to become the new bot lane carry, need to have their base damaged nerfed and their scaling raised. Playing a marksmen into two mages is absolute ass. You cant farm because their base damages are so goddamn high and sustain has been cut across the board for marksmen. If people want to play mages bot and that is the meta, riot needs to rebalance mages so that they're weaker early and strong later, like mid game. This will give marksmen a chance in lane while allowing mages to have a clear "best point" where they'd clearly be the better option than a late game marksmen.

Ghoul in ShellJul 2, 20181 votes

I don't think mages are broken at all, I'm a mage main myself. The one thing all mages suffer from are their limit resource of mana, once that's down you're pretty much a sitting duck, most heavy hitting mages have somewhat of a hard time getting away from a losing team fight when SS are down. We're only there to be a second source of damage. once you build up for magic resist we won't even be a problem. You need a AP mid on your team because you can't just do AD. Not broken, just necessary to win a team. Every role has their buff and nerfs these recent patch. Not trying to downplay Hash, but he's not that reliable. Mages are nowhere near broken.