Remove lifesteal from this game...

Neriticc··4 votes·1,590 views

Build Botrk or in Draven’s case build BT and stand there right clicking while having more healing than Aatrox and Vlad combined.

Don’t worry guys, we need to nerf healing from kits (Aatrox, Akali, Vlad) meanwhile ADCs just right click with one item and become a super lifesteal tank. Vlad gets 250 heal every 8 seconds, meanwhile Draven heals 200 per auto attack.

Remove all lifesteal items from the game. Lifesteal should only be allowed in champions kits only.

15 Comments

Saezio2 votes

So, you want crit and lifesteal out of this game.

Why don't we remove ADCs in general?

Whyskered Wyrm1 votes

Why the heck would you want to remove ADC's?

Did you even think of the consequences that would come with no ADC's?

Saezio1 votes

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Why the heck would you want to remove ADC's?

Did you even think of the consequences that would come with no ADC's?

You didn't get the sarcasm?

OP made a post yesterday about removing Crit from the game, and today they make a post about removing Lifesteal from the game.

Neriticc3 votes

You know what. If Rito Games removed ADCs from the game, that will make me very happy and I will love this fucking company.

Saezio1 votes

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You know what. If Rito Games removed ADCs from the game, that will make me very happy and I will love this fucking company.

ADCs are in the healthiest spot they have been in the last 10 years.

I guess you didn't experience seasons 1-7 where better ADC won game.

And I say this as someone that both can't play ADC even at iron level + they are my most hated class design wise.

xDogMeatx2 votes

personally i know this hate as well. how an adc like draven on Q mode is basically a tank that regens quickly (even if focused no CC) with bloodthirster/deaths dance and guardian angel. someone who didnt heavily invest in REAL defensive attributes is still getting said defenses on pure offense items. note i included guardian angel in there due to the BF sword/immortality put in there. an adc shouldnt need CC to kill they should become non existant if 2 or 3 people focus them with 0 cc required. (and yes anyone who requires CC to kill or needs more than 2 people to deal with is OP because of said GLASS CANNON nature which i assure you items like deaths dance shouldnt exist at all) at least thats my Imo. oh yeah tank assassin items like item 3812 item 3046 item 3026 shouldnt exist. revert guardian angel so it isnt bias onto ADs. but hey we hear CC/mages counters adc right? item 3140 item 3156 wrong

Saezio1 votes

I agree GA should be reverted to be negatron + chainvest

But if you think draven is bad with those items, how about Vladimir +item 3152 item 3907 ? How is this any different? xD Draven is feast or famine at least and falls off hard in the late game, Vlad on the other hand is terrible with a lead or in late game on even items or even when behind(a reasonable amount, say 5 item vs 6 item).

xDogMeatx1 votes

not the dravens in my games lol they become a tank assassins. as for vlad though it allows heavy mobility adds a extra ability. thats all on him

Daddy Ants1 votes

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not the dravens in my games lol they become a tank assassins. as for vlad though it allows heavy mobility adds a extra ability. thats all on him

Stop feeding Draven then.

xDogMeatx1 votes

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Stop feeding Draven then.

I seen dravens become tank assassins with a bloodthirsters/GA/deaths dance (this is lateish game) the issue isn't feeding someone it's that they have items to negate their weaknesses

Woodakoodashooda2 votes

Life steal isn't as strong as you might think.

Life steal is usually an ADC's only means of sustain as they're usually lacking in health, armor, mr, self-peel, and/or CC.

And even then, they usually aren't building health so they rely completely on damage and life steal and kiting as well as allies acting as meat shields for them to stay alive.

But the life steal only helps them so far as to keep their health topped off or maybe a bit more with bloodthirster. So, when an ADC becomes fed, they're usually nothing more than a ranged assassin with little to no mobility. Which means all you need is to present them with a face full of CC and a touch of damage at which point, no matter how fed they are, they're imploded on the spot.

Neriticc3 votes

ADCs outscale all champions because of their easy damage output but them being ranged. Why should hyperscalers be allowed so much safety?

Daddy Ants2 votes

Items exist to reduce healing effects.

Learn to build them.

Cind3rkick1 votes

item 3123 item 3165 item 3076 item 3075

The thigh guy1 votes

Sure. As soon as we agree that EVERY melee champion should be at a static 300 ms. And cannot gain any more. And that every assassin can only use any mobility spell once ever 15 seconds. And every mage can’t regen mana.

I mean. We are tearing kits apart right?

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