the so called tank meta that we are currently in

Death by Glamour·Jan 1, 2018·15 votes·2,979 views

is a complete lie

2 semi decent tanks in toplane (shenpai and moakai both are currently lower than 50% winrate) and 1 strong and 1 decent in the jungle (rammus and sej) does =/= a tank meta.

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Professor WardJan 1, 201812 votes

top 10 winrates top lane at plat + consist of 8 tanks, teemo, and kayle

Support is also being dominated by tanks in the top 10. 7/10 which are tanks. With Taric being the highest winrate champion in league of legends right now with a staggering 54+% winrate

While at jungle the top champions consist of Shyvana Rammus Udyr Warwick Sejuani

Not sure how this doesnt conclude, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT, that we are in a tank meta.?> Every role where a tank can do well, (top, jg, sup) they are dominating.

AhristocatsJan 1, 20185 votes

inb4 "udyr isn't a tank" when the dude builds full tank and is a stun bot

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20185 votes

im not sure warrior enchantment triforce and a steraks/deadmans really make him a tank

Attticus FinchJan 1, 20185 votes

Not understanding the game isn't really something to be proud of.

AhristocatsJan 1, 20181 votes

indeed

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20183 votes

sorry but when i look at the winrate

its eve udyr shv shaco and rammus, 1 is a tank. no matter how you try to spin it a udyr who builds atleast two damage items is not a tank, unless ofc irelia is a tank because she builds a tri force and stuns people...

in the top 10 for jungle their are 3 tanks Rammus WW and sej, Rammus being the complete outlier. the rest are mediocre or comblete garbage

nice tableJan 1, 201810 votes

shyvana, udyr and warwick are tanks btw hehexd

GigglesOJan 2, 20181 votes

Not sure how this doesnt conclude, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT, that we are in a tank meta.?> Every role where a tank can do well, (top, jg, sup) they are dominating.

Because they are CC bots or high damage...

If we had a low damage "tank" like (a non-ap) nunu doing well I'd be like fuck it, its a tank meta.

Historically when we did have a tank meta (s1-s2) even adc's were building tank items... Unless everyone is building tank it likely is just a few champions that are called or mis-classified as tanks being op.

Troll for TrumpJan 2, 20181 votes

People please stop confusing tanks with bruisers.

One of them is trash and the other isn't.

BlåbæretJan 2, 20181 votes

Only 2 of those champions are tanks, dude.

Zero Skill TankJan 2, 20181 votes

Which site do you use, because in top 10 winrate toplaners at plat+ I can clearly see Yorick Illaoi Nasus and Garen , which are all pure fighters, and also Teemo Kayle and Singed , none of which is a tank.

Gelato da KoalaApr 23, 20181 votes

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top 10 winrates top lane at plat + consist of 8 tanks, teemo, and kayle

Support is also being dominated by tanks in the top 10. 7/10 which are tanks. With being the highest winrate champion in league of legends right now with a staggering 54+% winrate

While at jungle the top champions consist of

Not sure how this doesnt conclude, AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT, that we are in a tank meta.?> Every role where a tank can do well, (top, jg, sup) they are dominating.

people like to deny the truth, maybe the guy is a tank main?

AirKingNeoJan 1, 20188 votes

Glad you forget tank supports are strong bot lane and forget Ornn was a champion.

Sometimes I question why these boards consistently have an issue with the coming to the truth that tanks are broken.

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20182 votes

are they picked for there tankyness or there damage?

ornn tho a complete bullshit champion to lane against isnt as much of a problem compared to the likes or rammus or vayne

TyrekGoldenspearJan 1, 20185 votes

Tank are picked for a little of both, because they can:

A: shrug off the burst damage the other team carries,

B: They can hold down key people for your burst champs to explode.

C: Their respectable base damage is murder to Squishies.

Attticus FinchJan 1, 20181 votes

If they were picked for their damage rather then their tankiness then it would he """"supports"""" like Lux, Brand, Zyra etc dominating the support meta rather then tanks.

AR URFJan 1, 20182 votes

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Glad you forget tank supports are strong bot lane and forget Ornn was a champion.

Sometimes I question why these boards consistently have an issue with the coming to the truth that tanks are broken.

Because the boards will have to realize that squishies take skill to play for the most part because they'll die in 2-3 hits from a burst mage or assassin. And tanks can take a whole lot of damamge without dying and possibly getting a kill in return. Take Nasus a champ that builds full tank and takes a ton of damage. He's dominating ranked right now.

Edge of DaybreakJan 1, 20184 votes

The only thing that hasn't been accused of being meta is bruisers. I may not play bruisers but when you aren't even being considered strong in hyperbole the class may need immediate attention.

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20182 votes

well most of them are either complete stat check bullshit or abuse lethality

niether is good for the game

AhristocatsJan 1, 20183 votes

meanwhile Rammus Sejuani Alistar (20% pick rate rate btw) Udyr (classified as a juggernaut when he buids full tank and is a stun bot LUL)

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20181 votes

rammus is the only one out of the two that is a major problem, sej is middle of the pack of the top junglers with a winrate just higher than jax jungle according to op.gg. Udyr was a problem after the steraks changes just before rune changes (spiked at 54% wr if i remember correctly) and is still under the rader, i cant comment on the full tank build.

as i said further up the problem is not the alistar/leona CC is the damage that comes from aftershock/electrocute (underrated on these supports imo) and the adc

AirKingNeoJan 1, 20185 votes

The boards have a difficulty with realizing tanks are strong.

AhristocatsJan 1, 20182 votes

but it's fine, because we're not the boards

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20182 votes

top lane is not dominated by tanks, maokai is currently 50% shen sub 50% and sion the only tank in the top 10 with a tiny play rate

jungle has rammus doing really well, WW doing Well, so that two in the top 10 and Sej in the middle of the pack with all the bruisers and assasins.

that aint a tank meta

Troll for TrumpJan 2, 20182 votes

They're doing better than bruisers is the point

Troll for TrumpJan 2, 20181 votes

Udyr gets 2-3 dmg items wtf?

PhDs NutsJan 1, 20183 votes

It's a damage meta and games end early. Tanks outdamage bruisers early game because of base damage => more tanks.

chipndip1Jan 1, 20183 votes

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It's a damage meta. Tanks outdamage bruisers early game because of base damage => more tanks.

Can you guys stop taking any adjective out of the sky and slapping it in front of the word "meta"? Please?

PhDs NutsJan 1, 20182 votes

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Can you guys stop taking any adjective out of the sky and slapping it in front of the word "meta"? Please?

Damage isn't an adjective. It's not "out of the sky" because there's a reason I picked it. The meta picks are either damage carries or tanks. Tanks have high base damage, and need more time to ramp up to their full tank potential than the current game length gives them. Damage creep has gotten completely out of hand and is controlling how the game is played, particularly due to the new runes.

chipndip1Jan 1, 20183 votes

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Damage isn't an adjective. It's not "out of the sky" because there's a reason I picked it. The meta picks are either damage carries or tanks. Tanks have high base damage, and need more time to ramp up to their full tank potential than the current game length gives them. Damage creep has gotten completely out of hand and is controlling how the game is played, particularly due to the new runes.

"It's a damage meta, guys! PICK A CHAMPION THAT DEALS DAMAGE! A tank or a damage-dealing champion will do!"

Like how stupid is this? EVERY CHAMP IN THE GAME DOES DAMAGE. That isn't a description of jack shit.

PhDs NutsJan 1, 20181 votes

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"It's a damage meta, guys! PICK A CHAMPION THAT DEALS DAMAGE! A tank or a damage-dealing champion will do!"

Like how stupid is this? EVERY CHAMP IN THE GAME DOES DAMAGE. That isn't a description of jack shit.

You realize different champs deal different amounts of damage in different ways, right? There's a reason Swain isn't popular when it's more effective to deal your damage as fast as possible.

chipndip1Jan 1, 20182 votes

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You realize different champs deal different amounts of damage in different ways, right? There's a reason Swain isn't popular when it's more effective to deal your damage as fast as possible.

Coming from the same guy that said tanks define the "damage meta".

You know what? You do you, boo.

PhDs NutsJan 1, 20181 votes

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Coming from the same guy that said tanks define the "damage meta".

You know what? You do you, boo.

That's not at all what I said. I said they're picked instead of bruisers because of high base damage early game, since games are often decided early. Bruisers mostly need 2-3 items to scale, except for champs like Garen who get high base damage anyway (but lack the CC like a true tank). Tanks are ready for teamfights long before that, because they better deal with all of the carries that are able to get large amounts of damage really early in the game because of runes and current items.

hoyohaiJan 1, 20181 votes

Yellow meta

Attticus FinchJan 1, 20181 votes

Then damage mages should be tearing it up bot lane.

PennsJan 1, 20182 votes

and Leona Alistar Shen Braum Thresh Blitzcrank support :]

Death by GlamourJan 1, 20189 votes

usually more of a sign people dying within there CC rather than them being unkillable monsters

aka damage is too high

edit - seeing as you forgot to mention it

revert fizz [slayer-jinx-wink]

PennsJan 1, 20182 votes

seeing as you forgot to mention it

revert fizz

oh yes [zombie-brand-facepalm] [sg-ezreal]

KilanostJan 1, 20181 votes

Any early game meta is inherently not a tank meta.

Zero Skill TankJan 1, 20181 votes

Vest ~~nerfs~~ gutting hit hard - only here on boards nobody noticed.

SpookyNeedleJan 1, 20181 votes

It’s a poke meta

Nea104Jan 1, 20181 votes

You can be one-shotted also as a "tank" in this meta. So...

AR URFJan 1, 20181 votes

Tank meta is alive and well because when I'm behind, I build "tanky" and if I have a CC champ, I'm viable that way and very useful. It "seems" like tank meta doesn't exist because bot lane picks all the op shit like Vayne Jhin Draven .

undesirable teamJan 2, 20183 votes

jhin and draven suck rn tho

Troll for TrumpJan 2, 20181 votes

It's not a entire tank meta, just top lane tanks overshadowing almost all bruisers

koshkyraJan 2, 20181 votes

nobody has said it's a tank meta since like june

vincentwu123Jan 2, 20181 votes

We are in an everything meta. There is no meta is the actual truth, because everything is meta. Everything does too much damage. People arent even trying anymore, they just build full damage mash buttons and get kills.

DraehlJan 2, 20181 votes

I'd say it's a tank + assassin + long range mage meta. The issue being very high burst. Tanks counter said burst. Problem is it leaves many bruisers/mid-liners out in the cold. As a pretty dedicated Bard main I feel the weakest I have in forever even when building tanky items. Can get on Zyra or Naut support though and just about face roll and do better than Bard who dies so easily now. "Traditional" ranged supports in general feel so weak right now and judging by the top/jungle meta it's affecting their mid-line equivilant champ pool too.