especially when it goes against what you previously said about his ult.
your hypocrisy regarding damage in this game is unreal, you tell us yes damage is too high and then go ahead and buff one of the most easy ways of instagibbing someone.
sure I know worlds is coming up, but you have screwed soloq up enough this season give us a fucking break
º Lamb calls º29 votesSince when does what Riot say as a whole even matter? Many of their recent champs go completely against their supposed "design philosophies". Current Zoe is basically what old Nidalee was, but worse. Assassins now can have hard CC, with one having as much as tanks while retaining what they normally get.
It's even at a point where they'll acknowledge a champion is strong, or certain item paths, but then do nothing to solve the problem as the norm. They've been so focused on getting viewers that watch the game, and completely forgot about those who are actually playing the game.
Wizard Blaze28 votesRiot is on crack again. God save us all
Death by Glamour5 votesits like he always has to be at worlds for some reason or other
CppL8 votesCause its fun to watch when he deletes a champ in 0.2s...
Sleepcoma4 votesIf Rengar is played in lcs hes built as a bruiser and not an assassin, mainly because building like a bruiser makes him more useful. A full damage assassin wont do anything against a good team, try playing Rengar before complaining about him if you think he's that broken.
Edit: lol @ people downvoting me
KlydeFrog1 votesYep. Thats the boards for you. People cry about essentially nothing with out actually playing him. Tbh rengar is way better top lane and bot lane then in jungle. But people will downvote you call you noob. But have they actually played the champ no
Sleepcoma1 votesExactly, his top lane is much stronger, and this buff helps his jungle more than his top. I don't really care if they downvote me because I know I'm right.
VexingRaven1 votesCause its fun to watch when he deletes a champ in 0.2s...
I feel like people didn't see the sarcasm...
Sleepcoma1 votesI mean the boards complains about literally anything they die to so idk.
Aseraan1 votesTell me something you dont die at the moment I swear anyone fking sneezes on me at any time of the game and im dead Im dead serius i understand now why fking pro players refusing to interact whit the enemy team is a fking clownfiesta whit fking pinatas.
KlydeFrog1 votesYep. People are stupid. For instance omg they gave ahri a huge buff...... Umn ohh man stop the presses .4sec at level one....really like really did that change anything to her? The answer is no. What she could do before that she can do now. Yes her winrate had rissen but also her playrate. So in essence the truth is people believe what they choose to believe.
Sleepcoma1 votesI feel like the boards are full of a bunch of 12 year olds who jump on the same boat EVERY time it shows up, and they will find things to complain about lol.
Resolution16 votesI'm trying my hardest not to insult the balance team, but they kinda do that to themselves at the moment. I really hope companies end up looking at your resume and how you've managed to kill the number #1 online game when League eventually dies from your actions. Wonder how many more people have to quit before they start doing something about this team.
...or at least start listening to the community for once. At what point did anyone suggest buffing assassins, especially after you've tried to buff Yii and Yasuo, but had to backtrack from negativity already.
TheCodeisCupCake8 votesMan, I used to main Yasuo a year ago. I stopped. What the fuck is the point in playing a champion so strong, I don't get punished for missing my Q's? He used to be fun, hitting 3-4 Nados in lane would create a hp difference, you'd go in and barely win the fight with your flash +eq. Now its just E AA AA AA (miss Q) AA AA (miss Q) Ignite Q HIT. They need to revert his damage.
FixHealsRemoveGW3 votesI'm trying my hardest not to insult the balance team
You are also trying really hard to actually believe that.
SugeMinPikk5 votesAny time riot inexplicably buffs a champion that's in a good spot, the answer is:
"we want to see them in lcs lol" or "we want an excuse to gut them lol"
Crescent Dusk2 votesBecause he's just a worse Khazix and part of that reason is his complete reliance on an ultimate with fairly long cd to do anything.
Thefrostyviking1 votesThose two are almost completely different, only similarity at all is the leap in to kill someone.
Rengar is by definition a diver like Diana, so comparing his performance to kha6 wont really get anywhere when they dont even have the same tools to work with.
I mean sure you can compare like Xerath and Ziggs and see whom you think does different things the best, that is fine for their kits are pretty similar.
Or vel koz and Xerath if you prefer.
But Rengar and kha6? Too different to really get anything good out of it.
Kha6 will most likely always be the better assassin between the two because that is his specialization, but Rengar is by far the superior duelist when ults are down, he also brings hard CC or a cleanse if needed while kha6 gets to have mobility in his base kit and his ....w which to me actually kinda just feels like a placeholder because the rest is so powerful.
Crescent Dusk1 votesThose two are almost completely different, only similarity at all is the leap in to kill someone.
Rengar is by definition a diver like Diana, so comparing his performance to kha6 wont really get anywhere when they dont even have the same tools to work with.
I mean sure you can compare like Xerath and Ziggs and see whom you think does different things the best, that is fine for their kits are pretty similar.
Or vel koz and Xerath if you prefer.
But Rengar and kha6? Too different to really get anything good out of it.
Kha6 will most likely always be the better assassin between the two because that is his specialization, but Rengar is by far the superior duelist when ults are down, he also brings hard CC or a cleanse if needed while kha6 gets to have mobility in his base kit and his ....w which to me actually kinda just feels like a placeholder because the rest is so powerful.
Comparing the champs without ults is a pointless restriction given that Rengar can't gank at all without it and 100% loses the 1v1 against a Khazix without it.
Rengar lives and dies by his ult in elos where people are not retards and don't just hang close to bushes while an unseen Rengar is in their match.
Aseraan1 votesfairly long is not long at all not when u consider he will take hunter any time of the day...
Crescent Dusk1 votesfairly long is not long at all not when u consider he will take hunter any time of the day...
Which is reliant on snowballing early which has always been Rengar's problem to begin with as a complete feast or famine champion.
He's truly no different from Annie in that their ult reliance to do anything at all is what places them below the alternatives whereas k6 can delete with his normal rotation and is not contingent on terrain.
Sleepcoma1 votesFinally someone who actually knows the champion, thank you.
FixHealsRemoveGW2 votesyou tell us yes damage is too high
If I remember this correctly, Riot stated that front-loaded damage is too high on average but it was also stated that damage didn't increase overall.
Which actually is just Riot giving in to the pressure of the players despite knowing better.
So there is no hypocrisy, there is only your inability to read carefully or you being just disingenuous and twisting facts on purpose, because you just want your damage creep confirmed.
Pay some attention to the wording.
As always if you wanna know reasons for a particular change, your first stop are the patch notes. But why am I telling you this? If you ask "why are you buffing him?" It's just a rhetorical question anyway and you would instantly reject any reasonable explanation, because you have your answer already.
Death by Glamour4 votesthey said that damage overall hadn't changed over the course of the game compairing seasons
forgetting that games were generally 7-12mins shorter on average than the season which they were compairing too
FixHealsRemoveGW2 votesSo you just assume that Riot is too stupid to notice that games are shorter and that they can't read and analyze statistics properly. It's not like they have a whole team dedicated to analyzing statistics, right?
.....
You honestly think that Riot compares long games to short games and just judges based on the total damage? Are you kidding me?
You are arguing like a conspiracy theorist. The most ridiculous and implausible and speculative explanation is accepted by you as long as it confirms your belief, but you can't accept the actual facts that are WAY MORE plausible.
Death by Glamour3 voteswhat they said was true, the damage dealt was the same.
DPS was up because games were not as long
KlydeFrog2 votesUmm okay. Funny thing my games are the same length this season as any oyher
Aseraan1 votesYe expect its a fking clownfiesta onec you know the enemy assasins have a lead you cant come back cuz playing anything else what isnt shitting on ad mids is lose no matter what the fk you do.....
KlydeFrog2 votesAnd ? Playing team death match doesnt win games. Look at my recent gp game when i played agaisnt quinn top. Sure i started out bad then started carrying my team hatd core. We lost but i was so fcking fed lol. Point is you can still lose if your ahead
Aseraan1 votesPOINT IS YOU STILL FKING LOST......
Hey we lost but thats not the point the point is i have no real point outside i want to justifie why is the game a retarded fortnite wannabe.
KlydeFrog1 votesLol and by your logic they should have ff . since i was 1 shotting people and no one on there team could come close to 1v1 me. Thats the point
Aseraan1 votesThey could still 5 v 5 tho...... Whats hte pint again ur claiming deathmatch is not the goal but than u COME UP WHIT THIS................ no one on there team could come close to 1v1 me................HELLO? "We lost but i was so fcking fed lol." HEllo?
So you went gp u were pLaying DM and lost than now saying Ur saying wut again?
KlydeFrog2 votesDude just stop. Your literally contradicting yourself lol
AirKingNeo2 votesinb4 people say "because pro play"
only to forget that assassins aren't picked in pro
Death by Glamour2 voteshes not an assassin
SanKakU1 voteshttps://clips.twitch.tv/StrangeSuspiciousChowderPogChamp?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url https://clips.twitch.tv/TawdryPlayfulClipsdadFunRun?tt_medium=clips_api&tt_content=url I could make a lot more clips but these are pretty good I'd say and seem to counter your belief that you think he's not an assassin. I'm not saying he's not more than an assassin, but he's certainly that.
Death by Glamour1 voteshes not an assassin by riots own classification, they class him as a diver. I agree with you that hes an assassin in all but name
and just to point out nocturn is a top teir jungler and several assasins are picked as soft counters to zoe
NaturesMayhem1 votesRengar main here, I have almost 500k master point on the champions, all the skins, MR7, all the chromas. Love the champ and I love it when he's strong, but he doesn't need this buff. Rengar deserves to be behind in damage early and a slow start, if not, he's a disgusting monster with zero counter play unless you are playing his counter champion, and even then he can 100-0 with little effort if you're off guard. Buffing his ultimate will allow him to be more of a menace early game increasing his snowballing power and adding pressure onto a lane merely by being in the game as you never know when he may come, even with wards.
Not to mention how much longer the ability lasts, 8 seconds longer at rank 3, 28 seconds in total he can be invisible. I personally agree with this one as I believe rengar is a one chance one shot champion, it sucks to ult and just have to walk away because there's no opening yet. Which is the hardest hurdle for a Rengar main to overcome, ulting and deciding that it's best to not take the leap. Regardless, I would prefer if they didn't add this either though, Rengar is in a decent enough state, he's strong, but not god tier, any little buff could put him over the edge and ruin his good faith. Resulting in all the Rengar one shot posts for a month in till Riot caves and kills off the champion with several nerf patches as they did back in season 5.
Any Rengar mains that try to defend this buff have little foresight as I doubt any of us wish for our beloved bush-pounce kitty to get gutted again.
dark100dark1001 votesWhy buff? Riot wants more cat videos on the internet.
Rıots Bad Client1 votesdamage.
LatetotheRace1 votesI'm convinced there are X champion whores in the balancing team who essentially refuse letting certain champions either be mediocre or fall out of play for any length of time.
Aseraan1 votesEHEM lee sin EHEM.....
LatetotheRace1 votesBig time.
Shablagoo1 votesHow is increasing the camo duration going to increase his dmg?
Feathermane1 votesHe has to be allowed to hit the Jax damage/tankiness ratio. He doesn't have damage immunity and a short-cd aoe stun, so they have to give Rengo something to compensate.
FSP P1 SolusGod1 votesThe old runes gave us a counter to burst damage with armor and MR, even health glyphs, but rito changed that with a completely different "system" (might as well call them for what they are, masteries) that they had months to plan ahead for, but somehow completely missed the defensive aspect of it?? Instead, the runes are 95% damage and burst, and the rest is just random shit they came up with that's not even helpful, in fact, it's so minuscule that I feel its just for a placebo effect. I'm so hardstuck in my rune path that if I change even 1 rune, my laning phase is fked. I miss the old system, where my choices actually made a difference, where I could fking go whatever I want to, not whatever rito wants to spoon feed me. They didn't add any freedom, they just took it away under the illusion of freedom.