Can an adc please not practically one-shot their lane opponent with an assassin-style "two spells one auto" trading pattern at 700+ range the instant they hit level 3? I'm aware that sounds a lot like hyperbole or exaggeration but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XVApBE5LDw&feature=youtu.be ...it isn't. Even if nothing else about her honestly toxic kit gets changed coughtrapscough at least don't let her do this.
Vier4 votesWow you took 2 skill shots to the face and you are complaining about the damage. Damn we have to reward people that spend 125 mana, combo their abilites and auto at lvl 3 by letting them do no damage xd.
But you as Sona doing 300 damage at lvl 3 with auto Q auto is ok? Any champions you don't play are OP but the champions you play are very weak.
Now I'm not saying Sona is op. But stop these threads you are making a fool of yourself you stepped out of a minion wave and didn't even attempt to dodge it. If it was a Thresh, Morg, Blitz or any other character with hard CC you would have been dead.
Paroe1 votesWow you took 2 skill shots to the face and you are complaining about the damage. Damn we have to reward people that spend 125 mana at lvl 3 by letting them do no damage xd.
But you as Sona doing 300 damage at lvl 3 with auto Q auto is ok? Any champions you don't play are OP but the champions you play are very weak.
Now I'm not saying Sona is op. But stop these threads you are making a fool of yourself you stepped out of a minion wave and didn't even attempt to dodge it. If it was a Thresh, Morg, Blitz or any other character with hard CC you would have been dead.
Assuming you start Q... thats maybe 120 damage, if you level nothing BUT Q.
And its an actual skill shot.
Cailtyns Q? Nah. 100 base damage at rank 1 isnt it? It has a high mana cost sure, but its also got a REALLY good bAD scaling, which at level 3, means that it WILL chunk you.
Caitlyn has a lot of problems and needs a rework or a theme-change; shes no sniper. She doesnt fulfill the sniper fantasy (thin skill shots from long range), and would work better as RIFLE-themed champion with 600 attack range and a passive that promoted flanking and trapping. In fact; New passive idea; Aimed shot; Caitlyn gains an additional 10-50% damage against enemies which are affected by hard CC, the net, or a trap. This additional damage can crit.
New W: Traps now effect large monsters, minions, and deal 0.25 total AD as physical damage.
Vier2 votesCaitlyn's Q is also a skillshot. I said nothing about Malzahar here so I fail to see your point. Keep in mind that Caitlyn lvl 1 Q has a base damage of 30 doing approx 135 damage before armour mitigation. I must have forgotten the fact that Caitlyn Q has a silence on it. My bad.
Your idea of a rework is horrible. Caitlyn's whole kit revolves around Headshot. Removing it is basically removing Jhin's 4th shot and saying that he still has his theme. Reworking a perfectly fine kit that already gives a sharpshooter fantasy feel? She scales among the worse with attack speed, has 650 range, her traps and nets are literally sniping/sharpshooting. Now tell me where she has these "fantasy" problems?
EDIT: Forgot to mention that the damage I stated is if you take a Q in the face without being behind minions.
Michael Stronk3 votesI just watched this, your hp before the trade was 516, after the trade it was 216. so 300 damage.
your hp if full is 596 , lets make that 600 HP.
now onto the trade - in the space of 516 you walk up to trade, get hit by an auto attack, hit by an e skill shot, hit by a head shot auto, and hit by a q skill shot. You also receive three autos of damage from caster creeps.
Caitlyn landed her entire combo on you perfectly, and you took aggression from three caster creeps, yet you only lost half your HP bar. This is hardly a one shot.
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I just watched this, your hp before the trade was 516, after the trade it was 216. so 300 damage.
your hp if full is 596 , lets make that 600 HP.
now onto the trade - in the space of 516 you walk up to trade, get hit by an auto attack, hit by an e skill shot, hit by a head shot auto, and hit by a q skill shot. You also receive three autos of damage from caster creeps.
Caitlyn landed her entire combo on you perfectly, and you took aggression from three caster creeps, yet you only lost half your HP bar. This is hardly a one shot.
The part where she can do that in under a second at 700+ range and the only part she can conceivably miss is the net is my problem.