Lowering Veigar's burst is the wrong way to go about balancing him.

MealReadytoEat··1 votes·597 views

I'd much rather see the cool down on his game-winning e increased at later levels; He gets it down to 8.4 seconds most games.

He can just fish with it non-stop. Its real hard to capitalize on that 4.9 second window of down time when he misses.

I feel it should have at least a 16 second CD at ranked 5 for its level of impact.

I posted this on PBE forums, and someone commented with this -

> Veigar has several pro's and cons: > Pro's > Godlike mage > Godlike burst > Godlike stacking > Good stun > can fish with stun > > Con's > Is a sitting duck > has only one way to prevent himself from being engaged on > immobile > susceptible to being all in'd > > What riot is doing is getting rid of the > Godlike mage/burst capacity > and not exacerbating the true thing that makes him weak his capability to be all in'd > what the player base is suggesting is that INSTEAD of making him not able to burst people, PUNISH him for trying to zone everyone out with repeated e's by increasing the cool-down > Support veigar cries but mid veigar is more in line

13 Comments

Pisdov3 votes

you don't even need to stun someone to burst them down tbh

Dreadlocks2 votes

I dont understand this whole "he counters ap champs" ... sure He does, i get it. But he also blows up anyone who isnt tanky with either just R or QR. (+1)

Anhed1 votes

So does the Adc in 2 auto attacks. Stop bitching just because a Veigar player can land his skill shots.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Oh his R is a skill shot? Didnt know.

Pisdov1 votes

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Oh his R is a skill shot? Didnt know.

i didnt know adc's 2 shot tank champs, either.

Dreadlocks1 votes

I know right, i'm learning so much.

Anhed1 votes

"[H]e also blows up [ANYONE WHO ISNT TANKY] with either just R or QR" never said the Adc could 2 shot a tank. Learn to read plebs.

Dreadlocks1 votes

Regardless it takes more than 2 autos to kill someone as an ADC. Unless you are just beyond fed with i.e and you are killing a squishy seriously under leveled.

I am Ah Pukuh1 votes

His Event Horizon (which isn't all that difficult to land) also allows his own ADC to safely 2shot enemy carries as well. His ability to siege/defend turrets is ridiculous. Baleful Strike has a 5s CD before any CDR and is a colliding skillshot that passes through the first unit. Dark Matter has 8s, and is an overhead aoe so it also can't be blocked by minions, etc. All you can do is hope someone can flank or put pressure elsewhere because a head-on fight is out of the question most of the time.

Death by Glamour1 votes

I dont think people would mind if it took an entire combo to kill someone but in his current state he can just R and throw out a Q and you have one dead person.

Cant remember which game it was in but at worlds he did that to a tanky gnar and killed him.

Big Lincoln1 votes

he's always done that

it's just easier to get to that point now

Anhed1 votes

Have you played with the old Veigar? Because his old q was a point and click, his reworked q is a skill shot that gets blocked by anything. When I stun someone and they are in their minions using a q is pointless because it won't hit them.

Twitch Chat1 votes

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> What riot is doing is getting rid of the > Godlike mage/burst capacity

and you really really think that -50 base damage spread out over Q and W is going to completely get rid of his godlike mage/burst capacity

on a hero that stacks up 2 AP every 3 seconds

really

you're serious

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