So, we gut a champ who has more telegraphing and counterplay than anyone else on the roster...

Onotori··3 votes·292 views

But we ignore point and click one shots:

Akali Annie Diana Elise Irelia JarvanIV Khazix Malzahar Nocturne Pantheon Rengar Syndra Talon Udyr Vayne Veigar MonkeyKing XinZhao Zed

We ignore braindead clickers who kill you in <2s through autos or by spamming:

Ashe Cassiopeia Caitlyn Draven Graves Jax Jinx Tristana Varus Vayne Xayah XinZhao MasterYi

We ignore champs who are always very highly contested, often considered broken, and are really never in a bad spot:

Alistar Brand Ekko Elise Ezreal Fizz Gangplank Gragas Hecarim Jayce Karma Kennen LeeSin Lux Malzahar Maokai Morgana Nasus Orianna Riven Sejuani Shyvana Sion Sona Twitch Udyr Vayne Viktor Warwick Xayah Yasuo Zac Zyra

... but we gut a champ who never had a 50%+ average WR, and has so much telegraphing it's silly. You could literally never take a hit from her in a game if you played well and understood her kit, but we deemed her toxic, because being punished for not exercising counterplay isn't something we want in League.

Now, remind me why we destroyed Zoe when almost any burst mage does more damage, and is far more reliable, with less counterplay? Kind of seems to go against "fair" and "balanced," if you ask me.

Even assassins, WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BAD LANING PHASES, have better waveclear than Zoe right now. Supports like Sona have higher damage output. Tanks have higher damage output and better waveclear... why even play her anymore?

You would never intentionally overnerf a champ if you actually cared about balance. There are so many things you could have tried on the PBE for the several patches Zoe has been out... but did you bother? Of course not. People complained about Zoe, so you had to coddle them.

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TitanAnteus2 votes

I want you to know something interesting.

You're listing practically every champion as a problem champion. That makes no sense.

Onotori1 votes

So, out of nearly 140 champs, listing maybe 40 is every champ? Okay.

TitanAnteus1 votes

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So, out of nearly 140 champs, listing maybe 40 is every champ? Okay.

Some champs aren't picked just because they aren't popular. If you actually faced a mordekaiser you'd put him in the list too.

Onotori1 votes

Oh but see, thing is... Morde has some small amount of counterplay. I'm listing mindless clickers that automatically win, and many of whom one shot, since people complain about Zoe one shotting with no counterplay.

KVbqbFsC8e3 votes

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I'm listing mindless clickers that automatically win

How do you expect anybody to take this seriously?

Onotori1 votes

I asked the same thing when people said Zoe was broken.

AirKingNeo2 votes

Ekko, Zyra, Morg, Hec, lux, Karma, Fizz aren't in a good spot.

Onotori1 votes

In what world?

AirKingNeo3 votes

The world outside of bronze and silver where you can see no one is playing those champions:

https://www.op.gg/champion/statistics

321501 votes

you can add yi, lee, viktor and yasuo to that list and still won't be done with it.

Who Fed Ru1 votes

why AurelionSol tho

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