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OMFG SHEN YOU'RE 2/7! SO USELESS, GO AFK PLEASE!

Zombiephil··63 votes·4,944 views

No, I am 2/7/32.

I am tired of people criticizing others (or me) for KDR when my KDA is much higher. Whenever 2 teammates get into a fight in the chat, KDR is always typed, and it's getting really annoying. I am a Shen (top) and J4 (jungle) main, and I have encountered some experiences with this. When I play Shen, it's not rare that I finish with a "low KDR" while having a high assist count (i.e. 4/5/33, 7/9/27, 1/7/32, 3/8/33, etc). But sometimes my teammate(s) decides to be a douche and start trolling us in the chat and criticizing me for being "2 and 7" when I have 32 assists. And when I say I am 2/7/32, they say you are not a support, you are top, and you are 2/7. So you're telling me that I ulted all of you and taunted all the enemies for you guys to get kills, and now you're going to troll me. Anyone can "support" in a kill, even the adc. Same thing happens with J4, I could knockup 4 enemies, leading to an ult from Yasuo that ends in a Quadra kill, and still be yelled at for being "2/9" when I am 2/9/23.

So my solution to this is to just simply make the ratio TDR. Takedowns to Death ratio. Kills + Assists + Towers destroyed = Takedowns (like the ones displayed in your profile). This will also take into account how many towers you killed or assisted on, since this is another problem. Teammates yelling at others just on KDA, when the player has secured lots of objectives.

So in my example, I went 2/7/32 that game and I also destroyed 5 towers.

TDR = Takedowns/Deaths ratio. Takedowns = kills + assists + towers

My score would be displayed as 39/7. (2 kills + 32 assists + 5 towers divided by 7 deaths)

If Riot still wants to display KDA, can we please save that until the post game screen?

92 Comments

Phife55 votes

relax, take a deep breath... Good now that you're calm i can tell you a secret.

80% of the people who play league are autistic downsyndrome kids in grade 9 who think teemo adc is a thing.

Direwolfiez4 votes

I saw a Teemo support once. It was hilarious xD

Sirsir2 votes

I will sometimes do it to counter a Vayne. Shroom vision control baybee!

Ofc I don't play ranked but hey ^_^

jmaishere1 votes

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I saw a Teemo support once. It was hilarious xD

well if you think about it, a on click blind is really useful against adc's

Byrnes5 votes

This post was a roller coaster. I want to ride it again.

Narasimha9 votes

Hey man, Teemo is a MARKSMAN, clearly that means he's adc material. Jeez bro, next you're going to tell me something like Urgot is a better top lane ranged bruiser than an adc. Shenanigans.

Galois1 votes

Uhhh sure Teemo is a marksman but he is mostly ap but so can go ad which i have seen many Teemos fail at it...

SturmPioniere1 votes

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Uhhh sure Teemo is a marksman but he is mostly ap but so can go ad which i have seen many Teemos fail at it...

Whoosh.

Anomander55 votes

This is a major insult to people with Autism..... Please refrain from insulting people with disabilities.

Phife5 votes

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This is a major insult to people with Autism..... Please refrain from insulting people with disabilities.

please refrain from taking anything seriously on these boards.

Anomander13 votes

Not sure which is worse insulting people with disabilities or using them as a joke. Just because your not serious doesn't make the comment any better.

rinsujo elo8 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n5E7feJHw0

Phife3 votes

take it easy salty sally. we're all autistic when you boil it down.

Galois2 votes

Be calm and hug a poro :D summoner 31

FunkmasterFunk16 votes

I work in a school for autistic children twice a week so I have more expertise than anyone on this post. With that said, the children I work with are far more enjoyable to communicate with than any of the toxic players I will undoubtedly encounter every time I play league.

The Lexer2 votes

or 9th graders for that matter

BallisticMouse1 votes

Are you a soccer mom who thinks calling someone a retard or retarded, when they're clearly not, is a huge insult and disrespectful to actual retards?

Go back to Tumblr please.

Anomander6 votes

I just believe that being courteous and polite are something that everyone should do. Also as a veteran who is permanently disabled I do find making fun of or using someone with disabilitys offensive.

McAllister1 votes

Oh... I thought this was a joke post about how bad LoL players are, like the classic "You said that lawyers are like snakes? That's a terrible thing to say about snakes!" line. I didn't realize you were serious. It's a good point, so keep the upvote.

Civil Dawn10 votes

Lol... Shen isn't supposed to have many kills... He's supposed to have assists That's like saying someone is bad at Janna support because they went 0/5/32

Whoever is giving you shit about your kda is clearly a middle schooler who thinks League is Call of Duty where kills are the only things that matter.

TonyTonyMordecai4 votes

Dude, i thought CoD and HALO was the only thing with middle school trolls flooding the matches...

Civil Dawn3 votes

Unfortunately not. They're pretty much everywhere, especially nowadays when 9 year olds have their own computer/console

TonyTonyMordecai1 votes

LOL you got a point there... And the fact that parents buy their 7 year olds M rated games 0__0

Trídent1 votes

o_o

TonyTonyMordecai1 votes

janna2hot

Keltulis5 votes

I have the same problem as you. I try my best to not take kills if I can help it when I'm playing a tanky top (Think someone like Maokai, or your great example, Shen.) or a tanky (You know plenty :P) jungler. The mid or adc will be better off with the gold.

Still, even if I explain, some of my teammates be like, "Wtf noob Hecarim 4/6." when in actuality I'm 4/6/18

I often get as much or even more assists than the support 0_o.

Anyways, upvoted I hope more people who criticize others like this read.

DMouseslayer5 votes

I up voted too.

Mainly because I just had a jungle Amumu who ganked, and even if he got a kill, taxed heavily, then started trash talking our mid that he had more farm than she did.

From now on, if in pre game chat team buider, the captain seems like an idiot, I'm just going to go to a different one.

DotEleven5 votes

I get this a lot too. It's hilarious because I'm a support.

"You're 0/5, god you're bad." Motherfucker, I am 0/5/20.

That's one thing good about Heroes of the Storm is that there is no "Kills and Assists" it's all under one statistic called "Takedowns"

So, it wouldn't show me as 0/5/20, but 20/5

TonyTonyMordecai1 votes

Yeah, I usually add in the assists because the assists (in terms of a jungle or support) the assists show your presence in the fights throughout the entire match

Daedalus8714 votes

I get that being yelled at over your KDA is frustrating, but it is an important thing to know.

It tells you who to focus and who to peel for.

Riddler4 votes

KDA should be seen all the time because of data you can use from it to gain an advantage for sure; To take it out would be making the game even harder to play since you wouldn't be able to see crucial things like how much of a trade 1 kill for 1 kill would be that easily and stuff like that.

I am the highest ranked Shen player in all of North America and a lot of the games I play in ranked I am something like 0 / 3 / 15, 0 / 5 / 22, or 2 / 1 / 19 to talk about my last ranked game I played. Shen isn't a champion that should be trying to get a ton of kills unless you happen to get a giant lead early and need to carry by rushing a trinity force (which doesn't happen a lot). Most of Shen's power comes from splitpushing, using your ultimate, and then teleporting right afterwards to another place to capitalize on the fact that the other top laner can't teleport twice like Shen can; It's not a clear linear path like a lot of top lane champions where there objective is go in kill people be tanky and get out, as Shen has to rely on smart ultimates at the correct times to punish the enemy teams creep wave control and positioning over the entire map.

If people don't understand about how good assists are, you just need to let it go because they can't grasp a concept of the game and there's no reason to waste your time trying to explain it to them in chat. Just don't even bother replying, and let the victory speak for itself.

SleepyLionCub4 votes

When people compare their K/D's with utility tanks, i cringe every time.

Direwolfiez3 votes

People that try to shame tanks for having a low KDA are just dumb. Tanks aren't supposed to be able to easily kill other champs, that's what fighters and assassins are for. Seriously, just ignore and report them, and mute them if you have to. They're just mad because they can't carry their entire team by themselves.

Zombiephil3 votes

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People that try to shame tanks for having a low KDA are just dumb. Tanks aren't supposed to be able to easily kill other champs, that's what fighters and assassins are for. Seriously, just ignore and report them, and mute them if you have to. They're just mad because they can't carry their entire team by themselves.

Yes I do mute and report already, still it's annoying.

Space Bum3 votes

I unlocked another ability the other day. It's called "Mute". Been spamming it in a few games. Pretty OP.

Dryditch3 votes

I love this...

Especially when I'm Jungling.

I will gladly die to secure a kill for my laner, so I end up with KDAs like: 4/10/20, and get flamed.

Then there are the five dragons I've solo-ed, the baron I stopped, and the four towers I've taken... but those don't count when people decide whether or not you suck.

Tentakill Myself3 votes

People that do this are the reason for child obesity in america.

Solaxo2 votes

Jesus christ just mute him. Don't worry about such assholes. And why you write such things on forums, where those kids never come

Zombiephil7 votes

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Jesus christ just mute him. Don't worry about such assholes. And why you write such things on forums, where those kids never come

Yes, I do mute them, and how do you know they don't come? Also the post was not just a QQ, I was also suggesting to Riot to change the score system.

revliledpembroke2 votes

As an Amumu jungle, Braum/Leona Support player, I agree. Even if some of my Amumu games are Amumu carrying the day. What's weird to me is that I can be Leona Support, go 4/0 because of the shield exploding at the right/wrong time, and then go 0/10, but still end up with 30+ assists.

Kitten of Evil2 votes

Just ignore and/or mute them. As a tank or support, your KD should be less than 1 anyway (ideally 0/0 as support, but stuff happens). Your KDA should be much higher, and it sounds like it is. Keep calm and carry on!

SleepyLionCub1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Kitten of Evil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TEX0nugi,comment-id=0019,timestamp=2015-02-26T23:59:15.066+0000)

Just ignore and/or mute them. As a tank or support, your KD should be less than 1 anyway (ideally 0/0 as support, but stuff happens). Your KDA should be much higher, and it sounds like it is. Keep calm and carry on!

I wouldnt say every support should be 0/0. Morgana, Annie, and Zyra supports usually can 1v1 enemy champions by end game.

BlackSunNocturne4 votes

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I wouldnt say every support should be 0/0. Morgana, Annie, and Zyra supports usually can 1v1 enemy champions by end game.

That's because those three were designed, and marketed as, mid lane mages, not supports. Just saying

Spacesuit Spiff1 votes

{quoted}

That's because those three were designed, and marketed as, mid lane mages, not supports. Just saying

fully built Taric is actually terrifying, if you fight long enough to kill yourself on his thornmail. I saw one almost carry a 4v5 in Ascension

blueberrypancake1 votes

I played a huge amount of Taric top because I suck at bruisers, so I like playing supports in other lanes like Sona mid. Taric is the best counter to any bruiser you can think of, tee hee, Riven you're screwed, Pantheon you're screwed, Tryndie you're fucked, Fiora you killed my father, prepare to die.

Meep Man2 votes

When will people realize this is a MOBA not an FPS?

BallisticMouse2 votes

While I agree with your point, your example of what you were is a bit off which bugs me.

You're last two Shen games were 3-6-10 and 2-2-9, maybe it's one too far back for me to see on LolKing but, i'm just saying.

Zombiephil1 votes

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While I agree with your point, your example of what you were is a bit off which bugs me.

You're last two Shen games were 3-6-10 and 2-2-9, maybe it's one too far back for me to see on LolKing but, i'm just saying.

I play about 6-8 games a day on weekends, so my last 10 is usually at most 3 days of games. Some of those scores were in ranked, so you can look me up since all ranked games are public on the League of Legends Match history. I know for sure 2 of my ranked games were 4/5/33 and 1/7/32, can't remember if I was trolled in those.

ABlueQuaker2 votes

tbh I'm thinking you were full tank and the enemy team was just ignoring you and going for your back line because you provide no meaningful/game-changing cc and very minimal amounts of damage and you were trying to dive the enemy back line instead of peeling for your carries which shen really excels at.

The Trent1 votes

This only happened to me back when I was in like bronze 5 and if u are bronze 5 then u do suck. I haven't had anyone say wow your 2/7 GO AFK because they have eyes and see the assists + to be fair unless your the support you shouldn't be dying so much and you also shouldn't be playing Shen.

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