Suggestions for a defense against Crit

The Ecdysiast·Dec 1, 2015·1 votes·1,532 views

In before " is all we need," 'cause it's not.

**Suggestion 1. ** An HP item with no armor. (So you still have to buy a separate armor item) Unique passive: Awareness: Reduces the critical strike chance of the last enemy you basic-attacked by 20%. (Passive named Awareness because I figure you won't be critically struck by an enemy you're fighting, as often as you would an enemy who's properly kiting. You're more aware of their movements. Like Xin's passive on Challenged opponents.)

**Suggestion 2. ** An item, HP or Armor but not both. Unique Passive: Awareness: Reduces the damage of successive critical strikes in a short amount of time by 10%, stacking 3 times.

Of course, these are open to suggestions and specification. I just wanted my ideas on unique passives to be out there.

11 Comments

Critmaster GarenDec 1, 20151 votes

or they could just buff fucking thornmail already.

370 armor in my last game and the enemy ashe was healing up with lifesteal through the damage return. its ridiculous how they nerfed this thing to shit. we need it more than ever, especially against this 12% max health true damage vayne.

death screens are showing more than 1k true damage from silver bolts. how the fuck are we supposed to deal with this?

The EcdysiastDec 1, 20151 votes

Well. Neither of my suggestions would work against Ashe or Vayne because those two champions are not the ones who deal a lot of damage from critical strikes.

Ashe's attacks no longer count as critical strikes every time, so Randuin's no longer stunts her damage every attack.
Vayne is not Critical-strike focused.

Critmaster GarenDec 1, 20151 votes

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Well. Neither of my suggestions would work against Ashe or Vayne.

Ashe's attacks no longer count as critical strikes every time.

Vayne is not Critical-strike focused.

it would make more sense to introduce more damage reduction against critical strikes.

the removal of the mastery together with adc reaching 100% crit chance by lategame really hurts.

id say having an item that reduces crit damage, and scales with bonus resistances would help.

The EcdysiastDec 1, 20151 votes

That still wouldn't affect Ashe or Vayne. What you're saying could very well just be a buff to Randuin's.

Critmaster GarenDec 1, 20151 votes

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That still wouldn't affect Ashe or Vayne. What you're saying could very well just be a buff to Randuin's.

a buff to randuins would mean theyd just remove power somewhere else in return. the item already is pretty effective as an anti adc item. im just saying we need more of those.

JackMcSnipeyzDec 1, 20151 votes

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or they could just buff fucking thornmail already.

370 armor in my last game and the enemy ashe was healing up with lifesteal through the damage return. its ridiculous how they nerfed this thing to shit. we need it more than ever, especially against this 12% max health true damage vayne.

death screens are showing more than 1k true damage from silver bolts. how the fuck are we supposed to deal with this?

While i agree thornmail needs a buff, it shouldnt kill the enemy adc for you, just because they attacked you, ashe due to her passive benefits from life steal greatly, just because you have thornmail doesnt mean she cant out sustain you.

Critmaster GarenDec 1, 20151 votes

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While i agree thornmail needs a buff, it shouldnt kill the enemy adc for you, just because they attacked you, ashe due to her passive benefits from life steal greatly, just because you have thornmail doesnt mean she cant out sustain you.

well, she alreay makes it impossible for me to move. she shouldnt also heal up through thronmail when i specifically itemize into anti ad.

Professor WardDec 1, 20151 votes

people tend to act like item 3047 doesnt exist anymore

this item is the single most cost effective way to reduce crit damage and adc damage overall

tabi/randuins/frozen heart and adc becomes useless

The EcdysiastDec 1, 20151 votes

It reduces all AA damage, so it has to be kept low. That's why I'm asking for crit-specific items that are stronger.

Professor WardDec 1, 20151 votes

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It reduces all AA damage, so it has to be kept low. That's why I'm asking for crit-specific items that are stronger.

crits are almost always aa so therefore this really is better than an item that reduces crit damage by 10% as its reducing crit AND non crit damage by 10%

unless your looking for an item that reduces crit damage by 20-30%

but as it stands tabi boots>randuins for crit defense and riot didnt even mean for it to be that way

The EcdysiastDec 1, 20151 votes

That's why I put the second suggestion, man. 10% with 3 stacks is 30%. It would apply if Yi's Q crits, as well as autos. I'm not asking that they replace any of the current defenses, just add this in. It'd be a situation item that has many, many more situations to be bought than item 3056 .