wHY DOES CS MATTER SO MUCH

Ok sure but why··2 votes·944 views

9/1/1 Darius, pushed 3 towers and made them ff right at 20

140 cs because I had to keep backing when four of them camped my lane

A+

7 CS per minute is still not enough? And remember you get absolutely no CS before the first couple minutes.

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MrHaZeYo2 votes

In a normal game where you don't get fed as fuck CS grants you more money then normal.

It wasn't the CS (5.9/min) or the KDA (which I believe stops mattering above 5) that got destroyed your S. It was the 3 wards you put down in 20 mins. No Pinks. You had a 33% DS(Damage Share) and a 44% KP which isn't awful,

Ie Ward more.

Ok sure but why1 votes

So I should buy a sightstone and just spam them every time I start healing in base.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Your Yellow Trinket gives you 1 ward charge per 95 seconds (goes down to 60 seconds as the game progresses)

So in twenty minutes you'll have at least 13 charges to use for wards.

Ok sure but why2 votes

But that ain't really fair. Do you know how annoying it is when you've used all your wards, and then you and your foe are both at 100 health, and then he runs into a bush so you can't hurt him? And then you can't kill him because you have no wards, and then BOOM, he smacks you silly the second you get near?

I mean holy shit, son, that's why I keep my wards. That's the most putrid, disgusting tactic known to man, and now Riot is punishing you for working around it.

MrHaZeYo1 votes

I'ma assume your a top laner.

On Blue Side Pink the River Bush Red side Pink the Tribush

Blue side, 1 ward in there tri Red side, 1 ward down by where scuttle would sit

This would allow you to keep a yellow trinket available.

Or buy extra pinks for that senerio you just brought up.

Ok sure but why1 votes

But like, it happens so frequently inconsistently, I need all the wards I can get. But spending good money on one of those shouldn't be the answer.

Secondly, if the only purpose of warding is to keep you alive, then shouldn't having a very low death count be good enough? Are they not interchangeable by Riot's standards?

MrHaZeYo1 votes

You ward a area, by scuttle lets say. Grag walks over it, that helps you telling you that he is in the area, it helps bot allowing them to push up and play aggressive. it helps the jungler to choose whether he can counter gank, gank mid/bot, counter jungle, or solo dragon. Wards help everyone on your team, not just you.

Pinks aren't expensive I generally always have enough for a pink, As a mid laner I try to 1st back with 1,075 so I can get a Lost Chapter, 2 HP pots, and a Control Ward. If I need to back before then I try to always have a extra 175 (2 HP pots and a control ward) so if I back at 475-550 I get boots plus pots/wards if I back at 575-850, Another Dring Pots/Ward, 875-1959 Boots, Dring, Pots, Ward, I make a effort to keep shit warded for myself.

IF you pink the river bush it also allows your Jungler to know its not warded right there for a impending gank.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

why do you care about the grading system ?

MrHaZeYo1 votes

How else do you get Lv 6 and 7?

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

the mastery lvls and grades dont mean anything

Râmmus Bot2 votes

It does if you want chests or want something to accomplish or work towards instead of trying to play ranked with a bunch of trolls.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

but to cry over one game of getting an A + instead of S- is kinda blah...

i mean if the op had another 30 cs maybe warded a lil more , had just a bit more participation in kills then he would of got the S but in the end it dont mean anything.

and the op is askign why does CS matter, and the fact he cant understand why cs does matter then he dont need to get the S to begin with.

Râmmus Bot1 votes

The problem is that farm really does hold you back from a s- and up. I have evidence of this. http://imgur.com/G1XqTLN Although this game was a long 45 minute game, i was 16/0/16 with 135 farm. My KDA was amazing with 0 deaths but i was "punished" (i say it like that because i was denied my chest by doing something else that should have been better) by focusing more on my ganks and helping my team than farming.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

135 farm in a 45 min game is bad

and i never said it was farm alone that makes up a grade or lack there of

Râmmus Bot2 votes

Just because it does not matter to you, it does not mean others don't. And if it does not mean anything then why even be on this page

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

because just as you have and the OP have a right to have an opinion and voice it so do i ... the forums is a place to conversation, thoughts and debate . you dont have to agree with me but i clearly dont have to agree with you and either is fine. but for you to start stating comments like that starts to become more of an attack then a debate regarding something in the game

Ok sure but why1 votes

they give satisfaction

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

are you not satisfied with an A+ ?

cuz it seem it causes more people to moan and bitch then it does satisfaction

Ok sure but why1 votes

you can't flash an emote from a dumbass A+

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

oh so you just wanna be a toxic assclown in a game ? is that your whole motivation for getting an S+ and an increased mastery level ?

MrHaZeYo1 votes

These people know. Just cause you don't care doesn't mean no one else does.

oSEXYPLATYPUSo1 votes

ive gotten plenty of S games and have a a good amount of champs at lvl 6+ i dont play solely trying to get a grade on a system that no one knows all the variables to , let alone an equation that the variables constantly change based on how people do with X champ in Y game at Z role at any given time.. you have to perform higher then all those other players on X champ, in Y game in Z role and perform higher then your base average on said champ to get a grade of S or higher . but heres the thing... NO ONE KNOWS what they need to do to achieve this grade...

play to better yourself, play to enjoy the game and have fun... and if you do these things... you will achieve the grades you want for what ever ego stroking needs you need

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Playing to try to get a S does indeed help you better yourself.

Dude had 3 wards in 20mins, maybe this will help him ward more.

I play to play but that doesn't mean I don't want to try to get my champs to lvl 6 or 7. Its a added bonus of fun and accomplishment to me.

Yaśuo Main1 votes

7 x 10 is 70, 70 CS ain't bad.

140 CS at 20 min is bad. It's kinda wonky, but you need to get around 160 atleast, and farm isn't the entire grading system.

raptillicus1 votes

I agree that CS does seem to be weighted a bit heavily. I'd like to see some of that weight moved to total gold, recognizing that roaming for assists and clearing rift herald can do more to help a team than sitting in lane and farming.

Meep Man1 votes

While CS MAY be weighted heavily, remember that this is also a ranking system that compares you to other Darius players in the same position. That's why you could go Support Darius, go 10/1/0 with 55 CS, and get an S+.

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