I'm talking about 
etc.
Right now you have two options with them, get ahead and be able to shred anyone late game and destroy with ease, or get really behind and do nothing but feed until you lose. They are usually incredibly frustrating to face and i'd like something to be done about that ()
53436278DEL13 votes
melee and a carry lol and yes you are right however only two of them are risky to play even when ahead tryndamere and aatrox 
also melee carries
Treeofwar2 votesi call it the assassin update
Marshbouy1 votesuh, according to riot stattik these are the assassins being looked at
Akali Ekko Evelynn Fizz Kassadin Katarina Kha'Zix LeBlanc Rengar Shaco Talon Zed
so no. None of the champions i listed are on there.
Stray Kat1 votesuh, according to riot stattik these are the assassins being looked at
Akali Ekko Evelynn Fizz Kassadin Katarina Kha'Zix LeBlanc Rengar Shaco Talon Zed
so no. None of the champions i listed are on there.
-Dances- Diana isn't on the list. Yay.
Daddy Ants1 votes[{quoted}](name=Oh Look A Diana,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RptdoFez,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-01T20:53:53.966+0000)
-Dances- Diana isn't on the list. Yay.
That's because Diana is not an assassin.
GuardAbuse1 votesI personally disagree, but went to look at riot's classification for her in the client and she's listed as a fighter. I can see where they get this however when I play Diana, I play her like an assassin.
Rainbow Smarf1 votesbeing a meele carry lollllll oh god i remeber how fun it was 3-4 years ago .. now meele carry been destroyed to oblivion with all theses caster and super dash and movement skills for any new champs its stupid extermely stupid now riot never gonna be able to bring any meele char to the mix its over for them.
lilpokfluf1 votesMaybe the assassin update will give them small buffs like the way velkoz got number changes in Mage update
Marshbouy2 votesnot buffs, making it less frustrating to play against/play as + more diversity in the role.
Jeddy0171 votesDuring the assassin update, they'll only change Assassins. Melee carries aren't assassins, so they're not getting an kit changes. Maybe Riot will make an assassin item that melee carries can abus-I mean use.
Arakadia1 votesDuelists Class?
HappyHazard071 votesAs long as 
isn't touched... I think it would be cool.
ZT Xperimentor1 votesI'm surprised olaf isn't included; though I'm also relieved someone from riot hasn't tried to suggest mordekaiser again.
Marshbouy1 voteshe's more bruiser
Auz the Ripper1 votesAatrox is part of the diver update
Marshbouy1 votesok cool
Tobias Brackner1 votesAatrox is the only one on that list who is complete shit.
Marshbouy1 votesjust becuase they aren't shit doesn't mean they shouldn't be updated. It's about game health and variation
Tobias Brackner1 votesI'm sorry what?
Wait what?
100+ champions across 5 different roles isn't variation?
And that's not getting into item builds like wtf? How about we save champion updates for people who were nicknamed shit like The Movable Ward and Poopy.
Marshbouy2 votesupdated=/=reworked reworked=/=poppy/sion/taric level rework.
I'm talking about variation in the sense of "why pick X when X Y Z all do the same thing but Y has the best numbers ATM?" that's what the class updates are for.
Tobias Brackner1 votesYeah when you say "variation" that pretty strongly translates to "rework"
Also tbh a lot of people really overblow the whole "best numbers" thing without looking at the utility and power niche that certain champions fill as well as unique plays and strengths that they have.
Marshbouy1 votesso much of what ive said has gone over your head and into the exosphere.
variation does not strongly translate to rework.
deep inhale i will try to do this calmly. Lux, xerath, malz, and viktor all did about the same thing. fairly high waveclear one movement CC ability. maybe a slow
RIOT realized they were too similar and changed them. Now Malz has his voidlings to play with, xerath has a better ult, lux has her shield, and viktor has a higher damage ult and a lot more waveclear.
This is an example of variation being introduced to a class of champions.
An example of bad game health would be vlad getting the update so he is no longer reliant on WOTA and less E spam.
Tobias Brackner1 votesNo it didn't and my point remains the same.
People overblow the "best numbers" thing without looking at the utility and niche that each of the characters provide.
RIOT realized that some of those guys were really boring/toxic to play and decided to give them fun things.
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-remaking-xerath
They literally said this for Xerath with the only thing about "he's the same as other mages" is his reliance on ult. They same the shit with Viktor and same shit for Malzahar.
You should really read what Riot says about their updates before you trying to speak for them.
[slayer-jinx-wink]
Marshbouy1 votesnope it's not even worth talking to you.
goodbye.
Tobias Brackner1 votesI hope you stay more up to date with what Riot actually says are the reasons behind their champion updates in the future!
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Slack King1 votesI'm talking about
Right now you have two options with them, get ahead and be able to shred anyone late game and destroy with ease, or get really behind and do nothing but feed until you lose. They are usually incredibly frustrating to face and i'd like something to be done about that (
Yasuo is a fighter, not a carry Aatrox is not a carry Tryn is not a carry
Ill consider yi a carry only due to his lack of CC, need for hard farm. And strong lategame carry potential
Marshbouy2 votesAzir is a mage, but also considered a marksman.
I think the meaning of meelee carry went over your head. It's not about someone who literally carries the team it's about a meelee who is designed to do nothing but deal a ton, and i mean a ton, of damage.
Slack King1 votesAzir is a mage, but also considered a marksman.
I think the meaning of meelee carry went over your head. It's not about someone who literally carries the team it's about a meelee who is designed to do nothing but deal a ton, and i mean a ton, of damage.
A carry is someone who is supposed to carry, a marksman is someone who is supposed to carry a game, while also having range
Marshbouy1 votesAny champion aside from tanks and supports are designed to carry a game. That's a terrible line of logic.
Slack King1 votesAny champion aside from tanks and supports are designed to carry a game. That's a terrible line of logic.
No actually theyre not.
Spoofghoul1 votesThough gangplank might not be perfect he is probably the best example of what a melee carry should be
Fiora isnt really a good example as she is too basic attackfocused meaning she needs all this bullshit to make her viable like using q in the general direction (roughly sona aura radius) to proc vitals no real aiming needed An everyting counter dumbass %true damage
I don't think we should go there with melee carries anymore
the gangplank direction is just better
Sona x Rubick1 votesMarshbouy1 votespretty much. i felt like bringing up meelee carries again since people are complaining about yasuo again.
Sona x Rubick1 voteswhat you forgot is that yasuo doesn't need anything (except maybe getting a ressource).
