This Garen rework sucks

Moody P·9/26/2019, 4:36:25 PM·3 votes·2,125 views

He is undoubtedly getting the worst deal out of every mini update this season and it's entirely because Riot won't address the simple fact that Garen fundamentally has nothing. There is nothing hes good at doing that sets him apart from other champions, no meaningful win condition in his kit to at least provide a power fantasy, and there's almost no value in his already severely gimped kit. Just numbers.

Every iteration of the rework we have seen doesn't even try to make him more useful or more unique. They're just making him better. Being better is the second last thing Garen needs when you change him (the first thing is being worse.) There needs to be a reason I want Garen over another juggernaut, or any fighter, or any tank, because the absolute best case scenario for a teammate Garen is you being okay with him on your team. Never glad he's there, because he has absolutely zero draft value outside of his Yuumi synergy and Yuumi is likely still a permaban champion.

I would rather you icebox this entirely and leave him as is if it means you'll come back and give him the correct amount of work later.

17 Comments

Nik Nikerson9/26/2019, 4:45:35 PM2 votes

Is it possible that Garen is left in the state he's in because he is simple? The game needs simple champions; it doesn't need every champion to be viable at high levels. New players need some champions that they can just pick up and play.

Tr4shB4NSYST3M9/26/2019, 11:12:42 PM1 votes

The Ult change is pretty Okay, but thats mainly because the clunky villan mechanic was super limiting for garen, at least the ult change gives him threat on everyone.

The Attack speed scaling is virtually useless and A straight up nerf if you go cleaver and neutral in the rarer games that you can justify building triforce.

And the W change is pretty meh, not 100% sure on the #s but im not really a fan.

I like the point you make, there should be a reason to want to pick garen over darius or other similar champs. Currently the only thing garen has thats really unique is his slow cleanse on Q.

chipndip19/26/2019, 11:20:36 PM1 votes

Fighting the good fight, I see. Carry on, comrade.

ShyImagoghnar9/26/2019, 11:25:53 PM1 votes

is it live yet?

True Garen9/27/2019, 8:10:15 AM1 votes

#LeaveGarenAlone