Ignite now has a lower cooldown than Cleanse and Ehxaust. They really deserve an equal cooldown.

Gosh Darn·1/26/2019, 2:28:21 AM·4 votes·2,791 views

Exhaust is weak atm, and cleanse has never been meta because it just doesn't really compare to the spells you can use at-will. Cleanse doesn't even fully counter ignite, it can remove just the DoT, not the grievous wounds, and it can only remove the ignite after it happens, meaning you will most likely take multiple ticks of damage from ignite before ending the DoT with cleanse.

Pretty simple request. Even after the nerf, ignite adds a huge chunk of true damage to champions that already had more than enough damage to 100-0 targets without it. I think the nerf was great, but lowering the CD actually nerfed cleanse and exhaust and made ignite even harder to deal with because there are now 30 seconds windows of time where you're even more vulnerable to ignite because you won't be able to cleanse or exhaust.

**tl;dr an unintended consequence of the ignite change was a huge nerf to exhaust and cleanse, making it even harder to lane against ignite. Make cleanse and exhaust CD match ignite's new CD. **

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PrinceOfStorms1/26/2019, 10:02:07 AM1 votes

Bring back the AS slow on exhaust and it will be good again.

Beerstein1/26/2019, 10:10:01 AM1 votes

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Exhaust is weak atm, and cleanse has never been meta because it just doesn't really compare to the spells you can use at-will. Cleanse doesn't even fully counter ignite, it can remove just the DoT, not the grievous wounds, and it can only remove the ignite after it happens, meaning you will most likely take multiple ticks of damage from ignite before ending the DoT with cleanse.

Pretty simple request. Even after the nerf, ignite adds a huge chunk of true damage to champions that already had more than enough damage to 100-0 targets without it. I think the nerf was great, but lowering the CD actually nerfed cleanse and exhaust and made ignite even harder to deal with because there are now 30 seconds windows of time where you're even more vulnerable to ignite because you won't be able to cleanse or exhaust.

**tl;dr an unintended consequence of the ignite change was a huge nerf to exhaust and cleanse, making it even harder to lane against ignite. Make cleanse and exhaust CD match ignite's new CD. **

Makes sense to tweak them to be equal power with equal cooldowns for sure. Not sure how the balance team missed that. After every large engagement, you have timers telling you the exact window to engage where you have a huge advantage. It actually only makes sense to have ignite at the moment because of this.

Sexy Jack Rabbit1/26/2019, 12:51:13 PM1 votes

Summoners spells aren't supposed to be equal comparisons of eachother.

Cleanse has always been a situational summoner spell. It's meant for when you're playing against champs with high impact CC spells, like Zoe Ahri Lux

Lowering it's CD is just going to make it a mandatory take in more situations, which no one wants.

As for Exhaust I agree it feels weak, but it feels like if it is to be buffed, it should be elsewhere then it's CD.