isnt garen too slow even for a juggernaut ?

Frius··4 votes·378 views

aside that if ,iIF HE MANAGES to reach target has no slow/stun or hard/er cc to keep it on only a nerfed silence 1.5s from 2.5

mallet isnt also an option due to 3s spinning and low auto attack procs

also all his counters got buffed ,such as jax/renekton and riven

also juggernaut items cause adcs abuse sterak and cleaver and deadman nerf and# swiftness boosts nerf (more ms lose with Q ms lose and with base movement speed lose)#

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OneMustFall4 votes

Uhh he has an ability which lets him bullrush enemy champs on a low C/D. So no.

Great Muta2 votes

He's too fast.

PermabannedGaren1 votes

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aside that if ,iIF HE MANAGES to reach target has no slow/stun or hard/er cc to keep it on only a nerfed silence 1.5s from 2.5

mallet isnt also an option due to 3s spinning and low auto attack procs

also all his counters got buffed ,such as jax/renekton and riven

also juggernaut items cause adcs abuse sterak and cleaver and deadman nerf and# swiftness boosts nerf (more ms lose with Q ms lose and with base movement speed lose)#

Garen is slightly faster than average for one actually.

Critmaster Garen1 votes

slow compared to the average champion, yes.

slow compared to juggernauts, id say no.

that being said, reverting the mobility nerfs he got right after his rework because of dead mans (which then was nerfed, followed by boot enchant removal and repeated swifties nerfs), would help.

it was only 5 base ms, and 5% ms on the q.

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