why does irelia /xin heal on structures ,turrets ,inhib ,nexus but aatrox cant?

Frius·Jun 15, 2015·67 votes·4,039 views

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AbyssphereJun 15, 201518 votes

I feel like it's for "thematic reasons". Xin and Irelia's healing is supposed to come from within, whereas Aatrox's healing is essentially vampirism.

Alternatively it's just because Irelia and Xin Zhao are very old in comparison to Aatrox and back then Riot were more free with stuff like lifestealing off buildings.

rebound2Jun 15, 20154 votes

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I feel like it's for "thematic reasons". Xin and Irelia's healing is supposed to come from within, whereas Aatrox's healing is essentially vampirism.

Turrets are people too!

Meeks011Jun 16, 20151 votes

Tryndamere's healing comes from within, why the fuck can't he gain fury from structures?

junglerboy16Jun 16, 20153 votes

Because normally you punch walls when you're already angry and want to blow off some steam.

Goodest GamerJun 15, 20154 votes

aatrox doesnt even get to win lane to be able to hit the enemy laners tower. nice bait.

TransgressorJun 15, 20151 votes

Do you even play Aatrox?

Goodest GamerJun 15, 20152 votes

played him once after his nerf. rip.

TaarkiJun 15, 20153 votes

Doesn't aatrox heal from stealing the blood of his victims? So the structures, turrets, inhib, nexus don't have blood, which is why he doesn't heal.

Father CthulhuJun 15, 20152 votes

Game balance, not thematic logic.

TransgressorJun 15, 20152 votes

Thematic logic that translates into game balance, your argument is invalid.

Father CthulhuJun 16, 20153 votes

Right, so Vladimir shouldn't be able to heal off of Blitzcrank , and Nami should damage when she heals him... Sorry but thematic's don't always translate to in game balance, or league would be a clusterfuck.

TransgressorJun 16, 20152 votes

Well duh, who said something like that?!

Hello I am BirdJun 16, 20153 votes

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Thematic logic that translates into game balance

sounds like you did...

TransgressorJun 16, 20151 votes

Oh really? Where on earth did I say it ALWAYS translates into game balance?

Sorry honey, you're barking up the wrong tree, goodbye.

Hello I am BirdJun 16, 20151 votes

Something like that isn't as easily implied You should specify that in the future, because as it stands, you just said "Thematic logic translates into game balance" Just a plain statement. Be more specific in the future, for all our's sake

Nuclear PandaJun 15, 20153 votes

Blitz and Ori are robots, he still heals from them. Aatrox should be the biggest counter to Vlad then since Vlad has so much blood.

WutsKrakenJun 15, 20152 votes

Ironically, Aatrox is one of the best people to pick to beat up Vlad

This is in regards to laning and dueling, not teamfighting =/

YumaS2AstralJun 16, 20152 votes

Actually, Vlad beats Aatrox.

Vlad has much better sustain and outscales him hard. He can avoid Aatrox's knockup with his pool. He is also ranged.

WutsKrakenJun 16, 20151 votes

Range does not beat Aatrox. He's one of the better melees to deal with ranged tops like Vlad

Also, if Aatrox is outsustained by Vlad, that is a VERY bad Aatrox. An Aatrox should put the fear of god in a Vlad right at lvl 1, Q him at lvl 1 and trade autos, hit level 2 first, then QE flash forced. Bring Ignite/TP. Risky? Yes, but this is what wards are for

Yes, Vlad does outscale Aatrox, but the whole point of picking Aatrox vs Vlad is to shut down that goddamn Vlad and bring spitpush pressure

He's not my first pick vs Vlad, but so far I've never lost to Vlad as Aatrox

TaarkiJun 15, 20151 votes

Okay, then I vote that Aatrox should not heal off of champions that don't have blood.

The LexerJun 16, 20151 votes

But Vlad has the same theme, so essentially they would be taking each others blood until they somehow die to overdose of opponents blood

DownfallJun 15, 20155 votes

HOW DO YOU KNOW TOWERS DONT HAVE BLOOD HUH? HAVE YOU ACTUALLY CRACKED ONE OPEN BEFO-....Oh, you have...oh nvm

Akali is SO HOTJun 15, 20152 votes

Because Irelia and Xin's heals are both flat amounts unless Xin goes an off build. If Aatrox did it it would be OP as balls

SaiannaJun 15, 20158 votes

Only Irelia has flat amount on her healing passive.

Ap Xin can tank even fountain turret while healing himself.

Imo Riot had no idea how Aatrox should look like when they made him, thus he feels like uncoocked raw meat that kinda stinks.

Knight SoIaire Jun 15, 201513 votes

Imo Riot had no idea how Aatrox should look like when they made him, thus he feels like uncoocked raw meat that kinda stinks.

its not as much as yyour opinion as its a fact

aatrox's design is unrefined

Hello I am BirdJun 15, 20153 votes

Fiora such unrefined STYLE

junglerboy16Jun 16, 20152 votes

He and Fiora actually suffer the same issues. Lore wise they are both elegant, precise, and extremely dangerous. In game, they just right click really hard. They don't match the skill level that their lores make them deserve.

Hello I am BirdJun 16, 20151 votes

Well, Fiora uses her ult... I mean, it's more useful than Aatrox's

junglerboy16Jun 16, 20151 votes

yeah, more useful, but still equally unskillful.

Hello I am BirdJun 16, 20151 votes

Fun times :)

AnidanJun 15, 20152 votes

AP Xin, Ultimate Backdoor Man XXX.

God that build is hilarious.

BiffoloJun 15, 20152 votes

It's because the first two have heals that go off on attack, while aatroxes goes off on hit. Most on hit effects don't work against structures.

qetzelJun 15, 20151 votes

I'm not sure they are supposed to. It seems odd to let them.

I suppose towers don't bleed?

FriusJun 15, 20153 votes

im sure xin does not challenge and duel the turret or irelia draw spirit of turret

SammystormJun 15, 20151 votes

They are suppose to. They have to been that way for ages. Their abilities don't count as lifesteal which is why they heal. Different mechanics then aatrox.

3TWarriorJun 15, 20151 votes

because structures don't have "blood" for aatrox to absorb

Ulquiorra995Jun 15, 20154 votes

Malphite Blitzcrank Zac Thresh Galio Fiddlesticks among the other things without blood.

Hunter SkullywixJun 15, 20151 votes

The better question is why can Pantheons passive block turret shots but Fioras W cant?

Goodest GamerJun 15, 20151 votes

better question is why does pantheon still have that passive? shit is retarded in lane.

Vistha KaiJun 15, 20159 votes

That passive is like 90% of why you would even consider picking Pantheon.

CubedJusticeJun 16, 20153 votes

The other ten percent is Underwear Pantheon.

LordGeovanniJun 16, 20151 votes

even better question is why throwing spear q counts as a basic attack towards sheild

Vistha KaiJun 16, 20154 votes

Because W fully charges the passive and otherwise every spell counts towards stacking the passive once?

At least bother to read the tooltip.

kJsJun 16, 20151 votes

Because Pantheon's shield is magically infused with attributes that allow Turret projectiles to be blocked. Fiora's Parry is her parrying, not blocking attacks.

This idea falls apart the moment you mention Braum though

SolusInCadereJun 16, 20151 votes

The mustache man (Braum, this name could also be Draven, but...), cannot block turret shots because that would allow him to tower dive with his ADC too easily.

To paraphrase riot employees in an article about Braum, he was made as a defensive support, and allowing him to take reduced damage on multiple towershots aimed at his ADC went against his champion concept.

Icestar1186Jun 16, 20151 votes

Because it is specifically coded to be able to block turrets.

TransgressorJun 15, 20151 votes

Irelia's true damage doesn't apply on structures, Xin's armor shredding doesn't apply on structures, Aatrox's life-steal doesn't proc off structures, Aatrox's bonus damage doesn't apply on structures.

Goodest GamerJun 15, 20153 votes

? ok but their healing does. what are you talking about exactly?